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Biguanide (PHMB) is
the generic name of one of the
more popular non-chlorine, non-bromine chemical sanitizers. The main
advantage is that no chlorine or bromine is required and there is little
chemical odor. Biguanide is an effective bactericide and can replace
chlorine or bromine in that function. However, chlorine or bromine are
also oxidizing agents that can destroy organic contamination: biguanide
cannot destroy organic contamination and, therefore, concentrated hydrogen
peroxide must be added to the spa or hot tub on a regular basis. A
disadvantage of biguanide is the development of biguanide-resistant
micro-organisms, after several years of product usage. This usually
takes the form of a pink slime or water mold and the only recommended treatment
is the application of large amounts of chlorine and/or non-chlorine shock.
This treatment destroys all of the biguanide present in the water.
Restoration of the biguanide regimen can risk a return of the problem and,
therefore, a permanent switch to chlorine or an alternative form of sanitation
should be considered.
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ColorQ Biguanide PRO 5 Water Analyzer
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product information.)
More information about the
ColorQ Water Analyzers can be found by clicking
on the above image. This hand-held, digital tester requires no color
matching or look up charts and performs the following tests: pH, Free &
Total Chlorine, Bromine, Total Alkalinity, Hardness and Cyanuric Acid.
Some models test Biguanide and Biguanide Shock, as well.
Be better informed and avoid costly problems!
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Switching
To Biguanide?
My wife seems to be
sensitive to chlorine. I've tried bromine and that seems to be no better.
Could biguanide make enough of a difference? Please advise.
H. S.,
1/23/2004
Biguanide
is an alternative to chlorine and bromine.
It is based on a totally different chemistry.
Actually, with biguanide you will not be able to use any chlorine
or bromine - even for shocking purposes. A spa on biguanide can
only use concentrated hydrogen peroxide for shocking purposes. In your
situation, biguanide is worth considering.
I suggest that the spa be emptied completely and cleaned before starting on
biguanide or another alternative spa sanitizer.
There are some other alternatives to chlorine and bromine
to consider: products such as ionizers,
mineral sanitizers,
ultraviolet (UV) sanitizers or
ozone generators or a combination. Look through the archives, on these topics, for more information.
Good luck.
Sincerely.
Alan Schuster, 1/23/2004
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Mold In A
Spa?
I have been told
that my spa has a water mold in it. I have been using biguanide with good
results, until recently. How should I handle the problem?
Sam A., Columbia, MD,
9/14/2004
Water mold is
caused by a microorganism that has, unfortunately, become resistant to the
biguanide. In order to treat the problem, I suggest that you drain the spa
and refill with fresh water. Add some quick-dissolving chlorine or
non-chlorine shock and make sure that at least a 1-3 PPM level of
Free
Chlorine persists overnight. Add more shock, as necessary.
This will destroy the water mold on the surfaces and in the lines.
Resuming maintenance on biguanide will require that you once again drain the
spa, refill and start from scratch.
Once a biguanide-resistant
microorganism has developed there is no guarantee that it will not return, even
after successful treatment. For this reason, I suggest that an
alternative sanitizer be considered: chlorine, bromine,
ozone generators,
mineral sanitizers, ionizers,
ultraviolet
sanitizers or a combination.
Otherwise, you just might get the problem back, in
spite of your best efforts. I hope that I have been helpful. Good
luck.
Sincerely.
Alan Schuster, 9/14/2004
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Test Difficulties In A Biguanide
Spa?
I use biguanide for
the spa and their test strips. For some reason I find the results hard to
read. Especially pH always appears high, but when I have had the water
tested at the spa dealer it appears to be in the correct range. Is there
another test strip or kit I can use for the biguanide system that will
test pH, TA, Hardness, Sanitizer? I have had problem with calcium &
high pH that resulted the circulation pump going bad. Thanks for your
assistance
Dave, 1/27/2008
The test strips
are convenient, but some people may have trouble reading the colors For a better testing option consider using the
ColorQ
Biguanide PRO 5 Water Analyzer. It is hand-held, all-digital
and
requires no color matching or look-up charts. It is quite reasonably priced and
easy-to-use. In addition to testing for biguanide, it tests the pH. total alkalinity, calcium
hardness and Biguanide Shock levels. It's the perfect tester, for those
with any color vision impairment! I hope that this
information will prove helpful.
Sincerely.
Alan Schuster, 1/27/2008
► Spa Sanitizer
Sensitivity?
I am having a problem with my hot
tub. I have just switched over to biguanide as my sanitizer, as my wife has
developed a reaction to chlorine and bromine. I cleaned and fill my tub 5
days ago and have a high pH reading. I have been adding a granular pH reducer
ever few hours for 3 days and can not get the pH down. I am also getting a
reddish brown scum around the tub. This scum is very sticky to touch and
hard to remove. Can you give me some help. My tub is located indoors. Is this a
factor? Thank You.
Don G., Ontario, Canada,
8/12/2005
There have
been some reports of problems with some brands of test strips. I suggest
that you have the pH verified by a local spa dealer. There is no reason
that the pH should be able to be lowered. The
LaMotte Insta-Test Strips
do not seem to have any problems testing the pH in a biguanide sanitized spa.
The reddish
deposits could be iron. Have the source water tested. If may be
necessary to treat the water. The problem may disappear if the pH is
lowered. The reddish
deposits are very likely to be a bacterial slime, due to inadequate sanitation.
Check the sanitizer level. Adding shock may be necessary.
Biguanide
is a reasonable chlorine/bromine alternative for sensitive people.
However, long term use may cause sanitizer-resistant microorganisms to develop,
requiring a switch. You might consider using an
ozonator
and a
mineral sanitizer. It will be chlorine free sanitizing. Another
alternative is
UV sanitizing,
which is chemical free. However, UV sanitizing must be used in conjunction
with other products. Good luck and I hope that this information proves
helpful.
Sincerely.
Alan Schuster, 8/12/2005
► What Is Biguanide?
What
is biguanide sanitizing that you mentioned? You suggested against it but I've
never heard of it. I've been using chlorine, but considered switching to
bromine. It sounds like you prefer bromine. I've been adding a lot of
chlorine, much more than the dealer said I should have to add. I test the water
every couple days and need to add chlorine. A friend has a very old hot tub and
adds chlorine once a week.
Wondering, 3/30/2005
Biguanide is an alternative
sanitizer, based on a chemical other than chlorine or bromine.
It is based on the polymer PHMB
(polyhexamethylene biguanide) and
can be useful for people with chlorine or bromine sensitivities, but is,
otherwise, not something that I would suggest: cost factor, tendency to
foam and possible development of resistant microorganisms. I do prefer
bromine over chlorine: less odor and less irritation potential. How
much chlorine a spa will require is more directly related to how the unit is
being used, than by its size or age. If you are looking to improve your
spa sanitation and simplify maintenance, I suggest that you consider adding an
ozone generator. With an
ozonator all you should need is 0.5-1.0 PPM of chlorine and it will take much
less chemical to do that. The ozonator will do most of the work and the
chlorine will act as a backup. Adding a
mineral sanitizer
will also reduce the amount of chlorine required and provide backup protection.
It works well with ozone. I hope that this information proves
helpful.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster,
3/30/2005
► Milky White Spa Water?
OK - I haven't seen this one
before. I just bought a new house with a 300 gallon spa. The owner drained and
refilled the tub just before we moved in. The water tested OK and looked
beautiful. My wife and I climbed in, turned on the jets and everything was
just fine. Then I turned on the blowers and everything turned milky white. I
have shocked and waited, but no improvement. After this the water still looks
great when only the filter or jets are running, but as soon as you hit the
blowers, it happens again. Any help is appreciated. Oh yeah - biguanide
chemicals in the water.
Steve C., Jacksonville, FL, 4/12/2004
Two
possibilities. The blower lines are coated with a biofilm (mold, bacteria,
etc) and some of it is loosened when the blower is turned on. The other
possibility involves the biguanide itself: this material has a tendency to
foam and the blowers may be creating zillions of micro-bubbles that cloud the
water. To deal with the biofilm, you will need to shock with hydrogen
peroxide and let the blowers operate to clean the lines. So far as the
foaming due to the biguanide is concerned, you may be able to control it by the
addition of an antifoam. If none of this works, it is possible that you
have a water mold problem that has become resistant to the sanitizer. Such
problems are not uncommon with biguanide. If that is the case, you will
have to switch from biguanide to another sanitizing method. My suggestion
would be to use an
ozonator and a
mineral sanitizer or bromine. I have no
doubt, that you will be happy with either method. I hope that this will
clear things up.
Sincerely.
Alan Schuster, 4/13/2004
► What To Do?
Dear Alan, I could not find this
question addressed anywhere, so here goes. We bought a spa 6 mo. ago and
it arrived with a Biguanide Spa start-up kit. Our spa has an ozonator and we
have used the chemicals with relative success. However, they are pricey. We
heard from a spa salesperson that simply dropping a bromine tablet into the
filter area once a week. That sounds too simplistic to me. I know that there
are pH levels that need checked and maintained and also shock treatments that
he never mentioned. What do you recommend I use?
Mary S., Fremont CA, 1/21/2004
What to do? Drain
the spa and refill and don't add anymore biguanide. If your
ozonator is
working properly, you should be able to get by quite easily with just adding
some bromine. The ozonator will allow you to use less chemicals to
maintain a satisfactory bromine level: 2-3 PPM should suffice, as
compared to 3-5 ppm with the ozonator. However, you will still have to
maintain the pH, total alkalinity and calcium hardness. The good news is
that because you are adding fewer chemicals, the water balancing should be
easier. Don't drop the bromine tablet in the skimmer, as it might add to
the possibility of heater corrosion. Use a floating dispenser. I
hope that I have helped.
Sincerely. Alan
Schuster, 1/21/2004
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Switching
From Biguanide?
I would like to stop
using biguanide and switch to an Ozonator and an Ionizer. I want to use as
few chemicals as possible. Is there anything that I should do before
switching over? Thank you.
The Kelly Family, NJ,
3/22/2003
Spa water has to
be replaced on a regular basis, so you might as well start there. That way
you start with a clean page and avoid the chemical buildups, that may have
previously occurred. Thereafter, the spa water should be changed on a
regular basis depending upon your usage patterns or at the first signs of a loss
of optimum water quality. In any event, not more than 3 months is
recommended without a water change.
Enjoy the spa.
Sincerely.
Alan Schuster, 3/23/2003
► Cloudy Spa Water And Water Mold?
Alan, about 3 years ago we
bought and had installed a spa (435 gallons) on our screened in porch. We
first used bromine as a sanitizer, but due to the drying effect on our skin we
switched to biguanide. This was done about 2 years ago. About 8 months ago
we developed a problem with what we believed to be white water mold. We used
a sodium bromide and thought we had it cleaned up. We also started using
another product on a weekly basis to try to keep it cleaned up, but it came
back. About a week before Christmas my chemical supplier recommended that the
spa be drained, refilled and a strong chlorine shock be added and allowed to
remain in the spa for 24 hours. This was done. We were to then drain, clean
and refill with fresh water. This was done. After 48 hours we added the
appropriate amounts of the chemicals used in the biguanide system. The pH was
adjusted to 7.5, TA was @100, calcium hardness was 250, and sanitizer was at
50. In less than a week the water was looking very hazy and we could not see
the bottom in the spa. The spa was used once during this time. I again
drained an cleaned the spa. Again, everything was brought up to specs. This
water was clear as a bell on Dec. 31. It was used Dec. 31 and again on Jan. 1
and the water was absolutely milky looking on Jan. 2, and has gotten even
worse as of today, Jan.4. I have added shock and clarifier which made no
difference at all. I have no idea what else to try. I am thinking about
going back to bromine. I understand that the biguanide people have a new
bromine system out there that is not as rough on the skin. Maybe I should
give that a try. Do you have any ideas on this one? Thank you.
Gary J., Chatsworth, GA, 1/3/2004
The water mold and the resultant cloudiness
are the result of the formation of a biguanide-resistant microorganisms.
The cleaning and treating with chlorine are only temporary: it is
resistant to biguanide and will, in all likelihood, return quickly.
I suggest that you permanently switch from biguanide to another sanitizer.
To reduce the chemical effects of bromine you
should add an
ozonator, as this will allow you to maintain proper conditions
with much lower bromine levels. To completely eliminate bromine, you could
use an ozonator and with a
mineral sanitizer or ionizer.
In any event, it is time to move past biguanide. I hope that I have been
helpful.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster, 1/4/2004
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Biguanide And Ozone?
We recently switched to biguanide and an ozonator in our spa as my wife has
developed a rather severe sensitivity to the shock used for chlorine and
bromine. The rash problems have disappeared and we are back to enjoying the hot
tub - very timely, as it's been -30 to -45 here for the past week.
However, after about three weeks of use, the water has taken on a yellowish
tint. The water is crystal clear, but a slight yellowish in color.
We've tested the water for pH, alkalinity, hardness, and sanitizer level using
test strips and liquid kit testers. As well, we took a sample into the spa
dealer for water quality testing. All readings are normal and within the
ranges recommended by both the spa and biguanide manufacturers. Mineral tests on
the water showed no iron or copper in the water. No one could definitively
identify the source of the problem. When we reported the sanitizer
(biguanide) level of 30-50 to the spa staff, they recommended that we reduce the
amount of biguanide we are adding to about half of the recommended dose.
We did follow this practice when we were using chlorine and bromine sanitizers.
However, the biguanide manufacturer does not recommend this procedure.
Bottom line, Alan - can we reduce the amount of biguanide in the hot tub and
will that affect the water color? Any help you can provide is greatly
appreciated. Thanks.
Murray, 2/1/2004
There are a few
things that are not clear. While using biguanide, did you add chlorine or
bromine? Ordinarily a yellow color is indicative of iron. Did you use
well water? Even though the test showed no iron, it is still possible that iron
is present, but that the test is being interfered with by a chemical present in
the water. I suggest that you have the source water tested for iron. Get back
to me with this information and I'll have more to relay to you. The yellow
color could be indicative of decomposition of the biguanide.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster, 2/1/2004
To clarify,
we used only the products recommended by the biguanide manufacturer. No chlorine
or bromine, or any other chemicals added. The only thing we have put in the
water (besides ourselves) has been biguanide sanitizer, shock and waterline
control - and only the recommended amounts at the recommended times. We had had
a slight rise in the pH readings for the first two weeks that we controlled by
adding about 15 g of pH down every 4 or 5 days, but this problem now seems to be
under control. We are using municipal water that has been tested and shows
no iron or copper, alkalinity of 110 ppm, hardness of 100 and pH of 7.3 - with
the exception of hardness, all within acceptable range. When we had the
spa water tested by the spa manufacturer, their computer program came back with
"yellow color caused by yellow or mustard algae" and recommended the addition of
an algaecide. We talked about this possibility and didn't think it sounded
reasonable, as it is the dead of winter here and nothing is growing.
Again, any help you can offer is greatly appreciated. Thanks again.
Murray, 2/3/2004
You definitely don't have
mustard algae. It shows up as a powdery deposit on the walls and bottom. If
the shock that you are using is anything other than hydrogen peroxide --
chlorine or non-chlorine shock - it could account for the problem. The use
of an ozonator and biguanide is not common and may be part of the cause of the
problem. When biguanide is oxidized, it forms colored decomposition
products. This may or may not be the case. At the very least, the biguanide
will add to the foam level and possibly interfere with the venturi effect, by
which ozone is added to the spa. My recommendation would be for you to empty
and clean the spa thoroughly, removing as much water as possible. Upon
refilling, I would stop the use of biguanide.
Because you want to avoid chlorine and bromine, I would strongly recommend
that you use a
mineral sanitizer, in conjunction with the
ozonator. This will
provide complete sanitation, without the need for shock, chlorine or bromine.
This is a much better option, under your circumstances. Many biguanide
users find themselves forced to switch after a few years because of the
development of biguanide-resistant microorganisms. I hope that this
information will prove helpful.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster, 2/3/2004
► Bromine Alternative?
I have an allergy to bromine
in our hot tub and the chemical biguanide has been suggested as an
alternative spa sanitizer. Can you tell me what this chemical is? Thank you.
S.E.B, 11/17/2003 The active chemical is a polymer called biguanide:
abbreviated PHMB. This material is incompatible with chlorine or bromine
and is a popular alternative to these sanitizers. While it does function
as a spa water sanitizer, it cannot perform the necessary oxidizing action that
is needed to destroy organic wastes and accumulations. For this purpose
liquid hydrogen peroxide is used. For someone sensitive to bromine this is
a reasonable alternative. Another viable alternative spa water sanitizing method
would be the use of an ozonator
with either and ionization unit or a
mineral sanitizer. In this case the
ozonator provides the necessary oxidizing action and the ionization or mineral
sanitizer provides a source of metallic ions - silver and zinc or copper -
that act as water sanitizers. Less chlorine
or bromine will be needed, on a regular basis. I hope that this information proves helpful.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster,
11/17/2003
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Biguanide
and Ozone?
My spa was supplied
with an Ozonator already installed. I currently use some bromine to
act as a back up. Would it be possible to stop the bromine and start using
biguanide as a back up? I think that my wife is sensitive to bromine and
chlorine. Thank you.
Marc P.,
2/3/2003
Yes, you can use
biguanide and ozone based on a leading biguanide manufacturer's recommendations.
I suggest that you start by draining and cleaning the spa. That way you'll
get rid of all of the bromide salts and start off with a clean slate. You
should only need to maintain a minimum level of biguanide, because of the
Ozonator. Follow the directions on the label and test a least twice
weekly, until you get a handle on how much biguanide you need to add
periodically. Biguanide has a tendency to foam and that could interfere
with the venturi (vacuum siphon tube) effect, by which ozone is added to the
water. There is another possibility that you might want to
consider. Why not use an Ionizer or a
Mineral
Sanitizer with your ozonator?
If sensitivity to chemicals is a consideration,
this makes a lot of practical sense. Browse through the archives
for more on the topic. Good luck and I hope that I have been helpful.
Sincerely.
Alan Schuster, 2/3/2003

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