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Considerations & Suggestions

Scroll down to browse through some archived SPA & HOT TUB questions and answers.  Please access the Spa Topics Page and other links, at the top of every page, for additional information.

Shocking a spa or hot tub  refers to the application of large quantities of chlorine, non-chlorine shock or hydrogen peroxide.  Typically 5-10 times the normal dose is used, based upon actual conditions and needs.  The purpose of this large dose is to break down the combined chlorine, organic waste and contamination and re-establish a positive level of sanitizer.  Shock treatments must be repeated, until such time as a stable sanitizer reading can be achieved, for at least a few hours.  Products such as sodium dichlor and non-chlorine shock are used for this purpose, with spas utilizing chlorine, bromine, ozone generators, ultraviolet sanitizers, mineral sanitizers or ionizers.  These products cannot be used in a biguanide-maintained spa:  only concentrated hydrogen peroxide can be used as the shock.  A spa should be shocked at the first signs of algae or slime, after periods of heavy bather usage and at the onset of a loss of water clarity or quality.  Another common practice is to shock treat the spa water every week, typically, after a period of high bather usage. This will help to re-establish the sanitizer level, help prevent the growth of resistant microorganisms and help maintain sparkling, crystal clear spa water.  Clicking on the underlined and highlighted "keywords" or "catch phrases," in the archived answers will give you access to additional information on that topic or product.  Please refer to the Glossary, if there are terms or phrases that require explanation.


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Chlorine Shock And Bromine?

If I am using Bromine, should I use a non-chlorine shock treatment and would anything negative happen if I used a chlorine shock?  This past summer, I only used non-chlorine shock and had beautiful water.  Last week, the pool dealership gave me a fast-shock that has chlorine in it.  Is it safe to use with Bromine or not?  Thanks.

Christine, 5/13/2003

Using the chlorine shock should not be a problem.  When you add a non-chlorine shock to bromine maintained water it destroys contamination or converts into bromine.  Guess what?  The same thing will happen, if you use chlorine.  It all ends up as bromine.  Isn't chemistry great!  I assume that the product is sodium dichlor and it should provide equally good results.  There would not be a problem switching back at any time.  Enjoy the spa.

Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 5/13/2003

 

Something Other Than MPS?

I think I'm allergic to non-chlorine shock and my wife doesn't want to use chlorine in our indoor spa because of the odor. Can I use a Bromine system and shock with something other than mps?  Or what else would you suggest?  Thanks.

Hal F., 2/3/2005

If you are maintaining your spa on bromine, excess mps will convert to bromine.  You can shock with chlorine.  There should be little persistent chlorine odor, as it will be converted into bromine.  I am not sure if your are allergic or not.  The problem may be rooted in poor sanitation and not have anything to do with bromine or mps.  I certainly agree that avoiding chlorine would be best, in terms of the odor.  What I suggest is that you add an ozonator.  This will allow you to avoiding using shock, under normal conditions.  In addition to the ozonator, you should maintain a 1-3 PPM level of bromine and use a mineral sanitizer, to help maintain this lower level of bromine.  Either way you should get better water quality with less odor and fewer chemicals being added.  I hope that I have been helpful.  Good luck and enjoy the spa.

Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 2/3/2005

 

How Often To Shock?

My spa is maintained with granular dichlor.  Do I still have to shock the water? 

Henry D., Statesboro, GA, 12/3/2003

Shocking helps to destroy organic byproducts and wastes and helps prevent the development of resistant microorganisms.   Shock treating the spa water, once a week or at the first signs of a loss of water quality, is a reasonable minimum.  You could use the same dichlor product to shock:  just add a double or triple dose.  I would prefer to use a non-chlorine shock.  This product will help destroy the odorous chloramines and get you back into the spa even sooner.  If your spa is equipped with an ozonator, the need to shock treat a spa can be reduced, especially if the ozonator is run off a separate low-speed pump.  I hope that I have been helpful.

Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 12/3/2003

 

To Shock Or Not To Shock?

Thanks for your web site, I find it very helpful.  I have a spa that is 300 gallons.  I run 6 days a week and get in the hot tub after my run.  This obviously takes its toll on the water chemistry.  Do you have any suggestions as to how often I should shock and how often I should change the water?  Any thing else you think I should consider?

Hughes J., 6/11/2004

If you don't have an ozone generator, get one!  All that activity is going to add a lot of wastes to the water.  Ozone can rid the water of the wastes and byproducts, without greatly adding to the dissolved chemical load.  Make sure that the ozonator is run for extended periods of time after each use.  Doing this could help reduce the need frequent shock treatment.  However, a weekly shock treatment is still useful to rid the water of wastes and help prevent the development of sanitizer-resistant microorganisms.  How often to change the water can be subjective.  The only scientific way would be to measure the TDS.  If it rises 1500 PPM above the starting point, without a doubt the water should be changed.  Every 3 months is a common guideline, but heavy use could mean more frequent changes.  A lot depends upon the sanitizer being used.  Some methods add a lot to the TDS.  Ozonation does not.  The important thing to do is maintain the water chemistry and clarity and it is the best indication of water quality.  I hope that I have been helpful.

Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 6/11/2004

 

► Is Shocking Necessary?

Why do I need to shock my spa when it has an ozonator and I add chlorine daily?

Bill G., 2/16/2007

You may not have to.  But, that doesn't mean that you shouldn't!  Once in a while it is a good practice to shock the spa, in order to not only destroy organic contamination, but to eliminate microorganisms that might have able to survive more typical chlorine levels.  There is no set rule and every spa is different.  If the spa is not going to be used for a few days, that is always a good time, as it will not interfere with the use of the spa.  You can further reduce the need to shock, by adding a mineral sanitizer, such as the SPA FROG.  I hope that this information is helpful.

Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 2/16/2007

 

Choosing A Spa?

I'm an owner of a new spa.  I've got the water chemistry all balanced. Everything's cool, but I was wondering about something.  I'm using bromine as a sanitizer.  I buy shock made for the spa which costs about 6 dollars a pound.  Is it the same as the 1 pound chlorine shock bags that I use in my swimming pool?  If not, could I use this as shock for my spa?  I'm kind of confused about whether chlorine is the sanitizer used in spa shock, or not. Thanks in advance!

Miranda, 4/10/2004

Chlorine could very well be the active ingredient in the spa shock that you are using.  Because you are on bromine, any chlorine or non-chlorine shock will be converted into bromine.  Isn't chemistry great!  The pool shock in a bag is most likely calcium hypochlorite:  you should not use this product in the spa, as it is slow dissolving, will raise the pH and contributes calcium to the water.  The product that you are using probably contains sodium dichlor:  it is quick dissolving, essentially pH neutral and well suited for spa shock treatment.  Another good choice would be potassium peroxymonosulfate:  a non-chlorine oxidizer that will quickly boost the bromine level and is completely soluble.  I hope that I cleared things up for you.  Enjoy the spa.

Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 4/10/2004

 

Hydrogen Peroxide?

I have a question about the use of hydrogen peroxide in spas.  Some friends of mine are using straight hydrogen peroxide in their spas and they say it works great. They have no way to test how much is required to do the necessary sanitizing but they say they just add lots and it won't hurt you.  This is obviously bucket chemistry, but I do not have any knowledge about hydrogen peroxide to discuss with them.  Can you tell me about this stuff or tell me where I can go to get this information?  Thanks.

Michael G., Canmore, Alberta, Canada, 1/18/2005

The lack of specific information about hydrogen peroxide is probably due to the fact that the material is not recognized as a spa sanitizer.  It is used as a spa oxidizer, usually in conjunction with biguanide.  There is no doubt that it is an effective oxidizer.  I would not recommend its use in a stand alone situation.  If you want to totally eliminate chlorine or bromine, hydrogen peroxide can be used in conjunction with a mineral sanitizer.  The mineral sanitizer will help provide sanitizing action and the hydrogen peroxide will furnish the necessary oxidizing action.  It is possible to test the peroxide level:  LaMotte Company offers a convenient test strip.  Go to www.lamotte.com for more information.  Have you considered an ozonator?  It can be used to provide oxidizing action and will avoid handling the hazardous hydrogen peroxide solution.  I hope that this information proves helpful.

Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 1/19/2005

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Shocking And Ionization?

I have an Ionization unit and the dealer recommended that I use a non-chlorine shock on a weekly basis.  It there a specific reason that I can't use a chlorine shock?  Thank you.

Tim W., 5/6/2004

Most people use an Ionizer to avoid the odors associated with chlorine.  Using a chlorine shock could create some of those chlorine odors.  Using a non-chlorine should help avoid odors and give you all the benefits of a shock treatment.  It is possible that the Ionizer's manufacturer has another reason: check the owner's manual to be sure.  I hope that I have been of assistance.

Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 5/6/2004

 

Shocking A Biguanide Spa?

Can a non-chlorine shock be used in a spa being maintained with biguanide?  I use hydrogen peroxide now, but would like to use something else.  Thanks.

Matt, 8/1/2003

Non-chlorine shock is potassium peroxymonosulfate.  It cannot be used with biguanide as a spa shock treatment or for any other reason.  Non-chlorine shock will chemically destroy the biguanide. Hydrogen peroxide is the product of choice.  Enjoy the spa experience!

Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 8/1/2003

 

Using Chlorine Or Non-Chlorine Shock?

Thank you for your informative website. I am a new spa owner and have decided to go with sodium dichlor, as a sanitizer.  But, after reading a lot on the internet, I'm still confused.  Should I use a chlorine or non chlorine shock with this?  Why would I choose one over the other?  I guess I just don't get the difference, especially when using chlorine as the sanitizer.  Thank you for your time.

Evan W., Tucson, AZ, 11/14/2007

You can use either one.  The purpose is to maintain a free chlorine level of 1-3 PPM, with the total chlorine not more than 1 PPM higher.  If the total chlorine gets to be too high, the non-chlorine might do a better job of narrowing the difference.  If you add the SPA FROG, you will be able to maintain proper conditions, while adding less chlorine.  This mineral sanitizer uses silver ions to provide persistent sanitizing action, reducing the chlorine usage and chemical presence.   I hope that you will find this information helpful.

Sincerely,  Alan Schuster, 11/14/2007

 

When To Shock?

Hi Alan, I just bought a house with a hot tub and have many questions about water chemistry. I have found your web site very helpful and have put it in my favourites. One quick question. Is there a maximum amount of shock treatments you can do in a week?  Is it dangerous doing it too often?  Are shock treatments harmful to the tub or my family? I am using bromine and it seems that shock is the only thing that brings the levels back up. The shock is a lithium based granule. The questions could keep coming , so I will go back to your site and wait for your response. Thanks for your help and your web site info!  Sincerely,

Theresa, Ontario, Canada, 10/18/2003

You can shock treat your spa, as often as needed, to maintain a 3-5 PPM level of bromine.  Shock treating merely refers to the addition of a quick dissolving product that will provide an instant boost to the bromine level of the spa water.  You can use the current product or sodium dichlor or a non-chlorine shock for this purpose.  The bromine product is slow dissolving and the easiest way to boost the level is to add "shock."  I hope that I have been helpful.

Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 10/19/2003

 

Too Much Shock?

I shocked my bromine spa last night, and tested it this morning.  My pH is at 8.4 and my bromine level is way too high!  After shocking, are the levels supposed to go back down to where they were by themselves, or do I have to re-adjust everything all over again?  I had all my levels perfect, and now they're all too high (except for the TA - that is still good).  Thank you!!

Kristin W., 1/19/2004

Not really!  An ideal bromine reading should be 3-5 PPM.  Higher levels could be irritating.  If the water was "perfect"  adding shock would have boosted the bromine level.  The water being in good condition probably did not have a lot of wastes and byproducts present that would react with bromine.  It may take a few days for the levels to drop and I would not recommend bathing, unless you know how high is high.  In the future, remember you can always add more - you can't take out!  Add shock treatment in increments until the level is 5-10 PPM, instead of adding a fixed amount and, possibly, overdosing.  If you want to lower the level quickly, many dealers carry a chlorine/bromine neutralizer product.  Follow directions and add it increments.  Your pH is too high and should be lowered to the 7.2-7.8 range.  I hope that the information proves helpful.

Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 1/19/2004

 

The Shocking Facts?

I am using bromine tablets in my hot tub.  I work hard at keep the level in the 3-5 PPM and the water seems to be in excellent shape.  Do I still need to shock?

Bob, Tiburon, CA, 12/2/2003

Good question!  If you add a spa shock treatment, such as a non-chlorine shock, on a weekly basis or after heavy bather usage or at the first signs of a loss of water quality, you will help destroy the buildup of organic byproducts and help prevent the development of resistant microorganisms.   On the other hand, if you rarely shock the water, you increase the likelihood of organic byproducts building up and the development of resistant microorganisms.  At the very least, consider adding some non-chlorine shock after periods of heavy usage, in order to quickly re-established the bromine level.  I hope that I have been helpful.

Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 12/2/2003

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