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"Alternative Pool Sanitizer" usually refers to
something other than conventional forms of
chlorine: the most popular sanitizing product.
Alternative Pool Sanitizers include: salt
chlorine generators, ionization-oxidation,
ionizers, mineral sanitizers, ozone generators,
ultraviolet sanitizers, biguanide (Trades names
such as Baquacil, Soft-Swim and Revacil) and
bromine. Some alternatives perform best by being
used in combination, while others can be stand
alone. Some alternatives are other chemicals and
others are generating or releasing devices. The
quest for simple and effective pool sanitizing
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convenience, less chemical sensations and
safety. What is right for any pool will depend
on how it is used, by whom it is used, bather
demand, importance of convenience and cost
considerations. No matter which sanitizer is
used, it is a good practice to shock the spa at
least periodically, after periods of heavy usage
and at distinct signs of a loss of water
quality. This will help to rid the water of
organic buildups and prevent the development of
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► Wanting To
Minimize Chlorine Usage?
My in ground new pool runs on a
mineralizer together with a ozonator. I know I have to use
every, once a while a chlorine tablet to keep the proper
balance. I am located in Dallas, TX. Some guy told me we
have to shock the pool and add conditioner, to keep the
chlorine in the pool. The whole reason I installed the
system. is to not use or at least minimum amount of
chlorine. Do I need a conditioner and chlorine? Thx for your
help.
Dieter, Dallas, TX, 4/27/2012
The reason a low level of chlorine is recommended is that
ozone does not remain, in the water for very long, once the
pump is turned off. Having a mineralizer helps make keeping
a low chlorine level more feasible. So long as you are using
chlorine, you should add chlorine stabilizer/conditioner.
Otherwise, the Sun's ultraviolet rays will quickly deplete
the chlorine and your usage will go up. I suggest you try
for 1 PPM of free chlorine. Because of the
ozonator, there
should be no chlorine smell or sensation. Instead of
thinking no chlorine - think low chlorine and you'll have
far fewer problems. Adding The Circulator will dramatically
improve circulation and will help eliminate dead zones,
where algae starts to grow. In addition, it will help ozone
stay in the water longer, because of the spiraling return
flow it creates. Once a month or so, when you may not plan
on using the pool, it would be a good time to shock. This
will help prevent the development of sanitizer resistant
microorganisms. Test the water regularly and you should be
good to go. I hope that this information help make the
season more enjoyable.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster, 4/48/2012
► Would Like
To Be Chlorine-Free?
My son has an extreme sensitivity to
chlorine and/or the byproducts associated with its use in
pools. He breaks out, whenever he goes into any chlorine
pool. We would like to have an inground pool installed, but
not without being able to avoid using chlorine. Can you
offer suggestions?
Henry K., Temecula, CA, 10/31/2010
The simple answer would be to use biguanide, as it is
incompatible with chlorine. However, the product does have
its share of baggage. Most users encounter problems with
resistant microorganisms, after periods, as short as one
season. Try as they might, the only practical solution, at
that point, is to permanently switch to another sanitizer.
It also impedes proper filtration and causes foaming. It is
not the long term solution that you are seeking.
Chlorine acts as a disinfectant, sanitizer and oxidizer of
organic wastes and byproducts. Many products or devices
claim to perform "chlorine-free", but may not be acting with
the sanction and approval of the U.S. Environmental
Protection Agency. This agency regulates the text that
appears on a registered product's label. It is easy to take
liberties, with sales materials. Bromine will meets these
goals and, while closely related to chlorine chemically, in
terms of being another member of the halogen family of
elements, it has been found to be less irritating.
Ordinarily 3-5 PPM of bromine are required. With some
additional treatment products, you can get optimum results
with a much lower 1-2 PPM level.
As a first step, I would add a
UltraViolet
Sanitizer. It kills virtually every microorganism,
including the worst offenders, as pool water passes through
the cell and returns to the pool. It will reduce the
microbial population of the pool, but will not sanitize the
water, in the pool, completely, nor will it eliminate algae,
that might be growing on underwater surfaces or oxidize
organic wastes and byproducts. Still, it accomplishes much
and adds no chemicals, but needs some help to do the
complete job. An Ozone Generator will
help destroy many microorganisms, organic wastes and
byproducts, without adding chemicals. Ozone is a form of
oxygen, that is a powerful oxidizer, but is short lived. The
ozone might only remain in the water for twenty minutes,
after the unit is shut off. Adding
The Circulator, to each
return will help it reach the far
corners of the pool, as good
circulation is very important in
achieving your goal. Operating the
ozone generator, for periods spaced
throughout the day, would be of
great help. Operating with a 2-speed
pump on low 24/7, is something to
consider. At this
point, you have greatly reduced microbial populations and
controlled organic wastes, without adding chemicals. What is
missing is something to act as a persistent sanitizer. The
Pool Frog is a mineral sanitizer, that uses silver ions to
kill microorganisms. It is normally used with chlorine or
bromine and will help reduce the need for the higher 3-5 PPM
level of bromine. Because the ozonator is doing much of the
oxidation, the amount of bromine required, to maintain any
given level, will be greatly reduced.
At this point, you have a low level of bromine and the only
other chemical being added is silver ions. When the pool is
filled, adjust the pH, total alkalinity and calcium
hardness, as required. As mankind has learned,
microorganisms are highly adaptable. On a monthly basis or
after periods of heavy bather usage, to help prevent the
formation of resistant microorganisms and to assure peak
performance of this triad approach to a reduced halogen
pool, I would add enough potassium monopersulfate shock
(non-chlorine) to boost the bromine level to 3-5 PPM. You
want 3-5 PPM present, for at least a few hours. I suggest
this last step, as assurance against developing a sanitizer
resistant microorganism. It may not be needed, but better
safe than sorry. However, if you ever feel slimy deposits on
the underwater surface, it should be taken as a sign that
something may not be performing properly or that this
periodic bromine treatment needs to be done. A
high-efficiency filter can further assure optimum water
quality, while remaining a low halogen pool. I hope that
this information will prove helpful.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster, 10/31/2010
► Won't Do
Without One?
I live in Houston. We are starting the
process of getting quotes to build a new pool. My sister in
Chicago has a pool ionizer. I have never seen anything as
easy as this. Every season they put a few bags of salt in
the pool when they and the ionizer makes its own chlorine.
They rarely have to add anything. Is it possible to have
this system in the hot humid weather that we have here in
Houston? I do not want a pool that is not an ionizer. Can
you help me in finding a pool company in our area that will
install this system with maintenance service?
Becky A., 3/6/2011
Not a problem! The product that you are referring to as an
"ionizer" is more correctly described as a
salt chlorine
generator. That's why some salt is added yearly: in
order to replenish the salt content, after the pool water
level has been restored in the springtime. An ionizer is
something different: it uses copper and silver ions, in
conjunction with shock treatments, to maintain proper water
quality. An ionizer does not make chlorine! A salt chlorine
generator system can produce all of your pool's chlorine
requirements, with a minimum of other chemicals. It is like
having a chlorine manufacturing plant. Chlorine output is
controlled by a setting on a dial and is making adding pool
chlorine the old fashioned way obsolete. It works in the
humidity of Florida and the Arizona desert. Good luck with the pool.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster, 3/7/2011
► Salt
Chlorinators & Mineral Sanitizers?
Your website is a great source of
information that I found while doing research on alternate
pool sanitizer solutions. Thank you for your time in
providing this service. I hope this isn't a repeat, but I
didn't find the specific info on the mineral sanitizers, and
specifically not any comparison between the two in terms of
effectiveness, cost and ease of use. I would very much like
to know your thoughts on the relative merits of the mineral
sanitizers and salt water chlorine generators.
Gene G., Madison, AL, 7/7/2004
A salt chlorine
generator is a complete pool sanitizing system.
About all you'll need on a regular basis is some acid to
lower th e pH. It is like maintaining a chlorine pool without
the headaches or the handling of chlorine. It is highly
automated and controllable. Need more chlorine - just dial
it up. A Solar-Powered
Dual-Ion Mineralizer adds metallic ions to
control algae and bacteria. You will still have to add
chlorine or non-chlorine shock on a regular basis, to
perform the necessary oxidizing function. In either case,
the water chemistry must be maintained. A salt chlorinator
will cost more initially. While I don't have specific
figures, I suspect that over the life of the unit, the cost
will be very competitive and possibly lower depending upon
individual circumstances. Some salt cells are rated to last
5 years or more, depending upon the location.
Mineral
Sanitizers use cartridges and have life expectancies of
about 6 months, by comparison. You can use both products
together. That will allow you to maintain a lower level of
free chlorine and that will make control of the pH easier
and extend the life of the salt cell. I hope that the
information proves to be helpful.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster, 7/7/2004
►
Ionization-Oxidation?
Dear Alan, your fame spreads far and
wide! Another couple of questions from the other side of the
pond (U.K.) I am considering fitting an ioniser, several
manufacturers out there, some use copper electrodes, some
copper and silver, some use copper, silver and zinc. from my
own studies of bacterial research via the web it appears
that there is a synergy between copper and silver which
provides a kill rate at 4ppm which can only be matched by
copper alone at 8ppm therefore am I correct that the life of
the electrodes (copper & silver) will be longer due to the
amount of ions required and also the electricity required
will be less saving the planet a bit more not too mention
that staining should be less? Second question, You do not
seem to mention that some manufacturers include a second
pair of electrodes (titanium or platinum) that are used to
provide oxygen to burn up those impurities normally carried
out via chlorine, thus eliminating chlorine completely. What
are your thoughts? I have also found a German company that
has made diamond surfaced plates that produce 100% more
oxygen than platinum plates. Kind regards.
John W., U.K., 4/10/2007
I will always have fond memories of the UK and the pool
business, having attended a trade show in Brighton, many
years ago. Ionizers (forgive the spelling) sanitize by
releasing metallic ions: copper, silver and zinc. As far as
concentration is concerned, 4 or 8 PPM, is far too high, as
that would likely result in staining and discoloration
problems. Levels in the tenths of a PPM would be more
appropriate, in a swimming pool. While an ionizer helps
sanitize the water, it is not a complete system. Oxidation
will still be required. Towards that end, an
Ionization-Oxidation device is more of a complete sanitizing
aid. These devices can have copper and zinc electrodes and
electrodes for producing various forms of active oxygen.
Apart from thinking the plates are titanium with a Platinum
or Ruthenium coating, I have no knowledge of a diamond
coating. To make an Ionization-Oxidation unit much more of a
complete sanitizer, you could use it with chlorine or
bromine, at very low levels. It can be challenging to
totally eliminate chlorine, as its presence on a persistent
basis provides both sanitizing and oxidizing and it might be
required, occasionally, if the bather loads are high or
conditions warrant. The maintenance of a minimal level of
chlorine or bromine, helps to confirm that the sanitizing
and oxidizing needs are being met. For those that want to
totally eliminate chlorine, Ionization-Oxidation could be a
route. Adding high efficiency filtration,
The Circulator for
improved circulation or a
UV sanitizer will make success
more likely. If you want to minimize the use of chlorine,
Ionization-Oxidation will surely accomplish that and more. I
hope that this information proves useful.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster, 4/10/2007
► Perplexed
About Biguanide?
I have been using biguanide for
several years and been happy with the results. It may cost
more, but I like the feel and the lack of chlorine odors.
The problem is that on two occasions the pool has developed
a water mold. I had to add chemicals and chlorine shock and,
in effect, had to start all over. The dealer says it could
happen again. Short of switching to something else, can you
suggest something? Thanks.

Paul B., Lake Worth, FL, 9/4/2007
You could try adding an
Ultraviolet Sanitizing unit. It will
depress the microbial populations and help prevent a
possible recurrence. If the problem does recur, you really
should permanently switch from biguanide. In that case, you
could change to chlorine or bromine and the UV unit will
allow you to maintain satisfactory sanitizer levels with
fewer chemicals. It's your call. Good luck with your
decision.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster, 9/5/2007
► Why Aren't
Ozonators More Popular?
Ozonators sound like a good idea. So
why are they not very popular? Is it good for a lazy pool
owner?
John W., 6/24/2005
They may not be as popular as chlorine, but their popularity
is increasing in all types of residential and commercial
pools. The use of ozone generators has been widespread in
spas for many years. Ozonators are not complete stand alone
pool sanitizers. A backup system, usually chlorine or
bromine must be used. A salt chlorine generator can be used
in conjunction with an ozonator and will provide additional
benefits. Mineral sanitizers and ionizers can also be used
in conjunction with ozone and chlorine, to provide backup
sanitizing and reduce the chlorine usage. In addition, all
of the important water chemistry parameters must be
maintained, as in a chlorine-maintained pool. Yes, it is
convenient. Yes, it will reduce the overall requirements for
sanitizer and will simplify chemical balancing. Yes, it is
good for "lazy" pool owners. There are other choices that
might be worthy of your consideration.
Salt chlorine
generators can completely eliminate the need for any
chlorine and there is no need for a backup. Still the water
chemistry must be maintained. But isn't that what pool
service companies are for? I hope that I have been of
assistance.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster, 6/24/2005
► An Ionizer
vs. A Salt Chlorinator?
I'm building a new concrete 26X42 pool
and I'm having a little difficulty deciding on the purifier
to use. One of my concerns is to eliminate as much as
possible any chemicals used (i.e. I hate the smell and feel
of chlorine). So I've looked at several chlorine generators
and Copper/Silver Ionizers. Some vendors swear by the
generators because you don't have to handle chlorine. But,
they can't answer my concern that the Chlorine content of
the pool is probably no different (i.e. regular
Chlorinators). On the other hand, Ionizers claim to use
little or no Chlorine. What can you tell me about the
relative strengths, beyond trivialities, between generators
and Ionizers? Any recommendations are appreciated.
Mike S., 8/22/2004
With an Ionizer you will still have to add chlorine, bromine
or non-chlorine shock on a regular basis. Otherwise, organic
bypr oducts will buildup to problem levels. The use of
chlorine or bromine will act as a backup sanitizer and help
assure better water quality. The ionization unit
will reduce
the use of chemical sanitizing products - how much less will
depend on your particular usage pattern. The overall pool
chemistry must still be maintained, as with any pool. Your
concern about chlorine should be eliminated, if you add a
salt chlorine generator. Under normal conditions, it is
chloramines that prove odorous and irritating. With a salt
chlorination system, all the water passing through the cell
will be free of odorous and irritating chloramines and there
should be much less of a sensation of chlorine being in the
pool. If you use a Solar-Powered
Salt Chlorine Generator and Mineralizer Combination, you will be able to lower the chlorine
usage and extend the life of the salt cell. My own
long-term, experience bears this out. It is the chloramines
- not the chlorine that are smelled. There are no chlorine
containers to handle or store! As with any chlorine pool,
you will have to maintain all of the other water chemistry
parameters. Test the salt level, periodically to assure that
the amount is within the proper range. Good luck with your
decision. I hope that I have been helpful.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster, 5/13/2004
► Ionizer
Needed Chlorine To Maintain Water Quality?
I purchased this powered ionizer, for
above ground pools and I think it is time for me to replace
the cartridge in this ionizer. I am debating buying another
cartridge, because the replacement price is going to
be around $150. Can you please share your opinion and/or
suggestions about this product or any others similar to it?
What is your personal experience or advice regarding these
ionizers? Being a new above ground pool owner, I am not
able to determine if this product is worth re-investing my
money again every 2 or 3 yrs. Please advise & Thanks for all
your help.
Debbie R, Dallas, TX, 10/25/2009
When sanitizing products, such as
algaecides or chlorine, are
registered by the US Environmental
Protection Agency, they rec eive an
EPA Reg. Number. In addition, the
agency limits the types of claims
that can be made. For some
unfathomable reason the EPA does not register all devices
and they seem free to make claims, that may not be
supported. I agree that this product can help sanitize
water. But water can be sanitary and look unappealing.
Wastes must be oxidized, with the use of chlorine, bromine,
ozone, potassium monopersulfate or hydrogen peroxide. WHAT
ARE YOU ADDING TO OXIDIZE BATHER WASTES? THIS PRODUCT WILL
NOT DO ANYTHING TO ELIMINATE URINE! Mineral sanitizers,
usually suggest the use of chlorine or bromine, at lower
levels, to destroy the wastes. In my opinion, stand alone
ionizers fail to provide proper water quality and add to the
risks of staining. In many cases, the dealer tells the pool
owner that no chlorine is needed. Just add a gallon of
laundry bleach weekly. Guess what! Most laundry bleach is
chemically identical to liquid pool chlorine, only at about
1/4 - 1/2 the strength. And if you have to add chlorine,
The Model SR Salt Chlorinator is somewhat more than the
refill, but is a full featured unit. I am really interested
about what other chemicals, you are adding. Please get back
to me.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster, 10/26/2009
To be honest with you, my pool guy,
(who bailed on me in July), was treating my pool, as if the
ionizer was not there. He said, he wasn't too sure that
these ionizers were very efficient, so he just kept caring
for my pool with chlorine and shock, which of course kept my
pool clean and blue. However, I was in Florida for a month
when my pool guy quit, and when I got back, I had a green
tinted pool. Since then, I lost my job, and have had a hard
time buying the chemicals necessary to get all the algae
out. Not too mention it has been raining almost every other
day or 3rd day here in Dallas for the past several months.
When the pool supply places test my water, I have had
ELEVATED levels of both pH & alkalinity and 0 chlorine.
When we finally got the ph & Alk level. Then I treat with
algaecide, then 5 to 6 lbs of shock and floating 1 inch
stabilized chlorine tabs. I vacuum, and still am unable to
get my pool totally blue. I think the rain is killing my
chlorine levels, because I cant seem to keep it up. And
those 1-lb pkgs. of shock are so expensive, it is
ridiculous. I have been looking for pool chemicals online,
but am unsure which ones are the best value for the money.
My vinyl is solid White, with the exception of a 7 inch
color design around the top edge of the liner, right
about where the top of the water level should be. I am not
concerned about bleaching any color from my vinyl, yet the
pool supply people, keep wanting to sell me the more
expensive shock treatment made especially for vinyl pools.
Every week, when I go to the pool supply store, it is
costing me anywhere from $80 to $130 in chemicals. So that
is the reason I was inquiring about the efficiency of my
power ionizer, & whether or not I should invest in another
cartridge due to the pricing of the item. I was hoping to
save on over-all chemical costs. And, after reading the info
you suggested a salt chlorine generator, I am a little
confused. Do I have to have a salt water system already set
up on my pool, to use the salt water system? OR Do you
recommend I stick with the regular salt chlorine generator
system as opposed to the saltwater system? Any suggestions
or advice you provide will be greatly appreciated. Thanks
for all your help.
Debbie R., Dallas, TX, 10/28/2009
Like I said, an ionizer cannot work without chlorine or some
form of oxidizer. At best, it can help reduce chlorine
usage. Your pool was being maintained on chlorine. When the
chlorine was stopped, that is when algae took over. The low
pH and TA are the result of the algae and not the cause. It
seems the product did little to deter algae and I would not
invest in a replacement cartridge. Because this is a device,
their claims are not regulated by the EPA. They can boast
about no chlorine, but in the real world, the truth gets
exposed. I suggest that you add chlorine and get the free
chlorine level elevated. Liquid pool chlorine is vinyl-liner
safe and cost effective. Or read the labels and use a cost
effective choice, since money is a consideration. It will
probably require a lot of chlorine. The POOL FROG is
something that can help you reduce chlorine usage, after you
have eliminated the current problem. The
Salt Chlorine
Generator Model SR unit is described as a saltwater
generator or salt chlorinator (the terms are used
interchangeably), for most above ground pools. The unit
mounts on the top rail. It will require about 25 pounds of
salt, per 1000 gallons, but will make enough chlorine for a
typical 20,000 gallon pool. It requires ordinary non-iodized
food or water softener graders of salt- about 10 cents a
pound. For better control of the pH, better overall results
and longer cell life, it can be used with a
Solar-Powered
Mineralizer. Two
solar-powered, salt chlorine generators
models are available, no installation is required and they
can be used in all types of pools. Good luck with the clean
up and I hope that I have been helpful.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster, 10/28/2009
► Algaecide:
To Use Or Not To Use?
I have never used an algaecide in my
new above ground pool and have had no problems to date. My
friends with pools, all seem to use algaecides and chlorine.
Is it a good idea to use algaecide? Just wondering.
Jeff E., Lakeland, NJ, 6/30/2004

The best way to use an algaecide is to add it before you
have a problem! That way, it can help you avoid a problem.
Chlorine levels rise and fall during the course of the day,
depending upon chemical additions and bather usage. When the
sanitizer levels drops too low, algae can begin to grow. If
an algaecide is present, it just might keep the algae under
control, until an adequate sanitizer level is restored. Both
above ground and inground pools should use algaecides.
However, the choices may differ because of the materials of
construction. You could use a
Solar-Powered
Dual-Ion Mineralizer, instead of adding algaecide, plus it will
lower chlorine usage. I hope that I have been of assistance.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster, 6/30/2004
► How Does UV
Sanitize?
I am interested in getting away from
all the chlorine and the odors associated with the product.
I know there are several types of alternative pool water
sanitizers available, which can reduce or eliminate chemical
usage. I've read up on some of them, but am not really clear
about Ultraviolet. Is this the same as Ozone? How does it
work? Thanks for the help.
Adam J., 11/2/2004
Ultraviolet (UV) is not ozone. Some
ozone generators utilize
UV to produce ozone, but not as a sanitizing agent. UV rays
destroy the microorganisms ability to survive and function,
after passing through the cell membrane. An ultraviolet
sanitizer unit is plumbed inline and effectively sanitizes
the water, as it passes through the cell. This has the net
effect of reducing the overall microbial populations and
reducing the amount of sanitizer necessary to maintain
optimum water quality and to keep the pool algae-free. UV
will reduce the microbial population, but requires a
traditional sanitizer to help keep it that way and to help
the underwater surfaces free of algae. Chlorine is well
suited, in this role, and lower quantities of chemicals will
be required because of the lower microbial populations. Good water circulation is important.
The Circulator, which
boosts circulation,
and a robotic pool cleaner would be worthwhile additions,
helping to keep the underwater surfaces in algae-free
condition. I hope that I have been helpful.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster, 11/2/2004
► Concerned
About Copper?
We have used a mineral sanitizer
system for the last 2 years with great results. We can keep
our chlorine levels low and the water stays perfectly clear.
This year, my wife has seen info that indicates that this
system may not be good for the pool, as it introduces copper
into the water Can you please shed some light on this
subject? Thanks.
Bill, 5/30/2009

Solar-Powered
Dual-Ion Mineralizers and ionization units usually
release a stream of metallic ions, into the pool water, for
the purpose of providing sanitizing benefits. The ions are
at extremely low levels, so as not to cause staining and/or
discoloration. I assume that this is the issue that you
were addressing. The instances, where copper can present a
problem, result from the use of copper sulfate, corrosion of
copper heater cores or excessively high concentrations, due
to over application. You should try and keep the copper at
0.3 PPM maximum and keep the pool pH closer to 7.2. Several
convenient testing options are available, including a
ColorQ
COPPER 5 Digital water analyzer, that eliminates the
guesswork and color-matching. I hope that I have provided
some enlightenment.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster, 5/31/2009 ▲
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