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How to treat Black Algae
and other Resistant types of pool algae? Black algae is
one of the most difficult varieties to control
and eliminate. This algae can appear as a
blackish discoloration or a tar-like deposit. In
either case, it is a problem to remove because
of the physical nature of this algae. It has, as
its outermost surface, a layer of
polymucosaccharide. This can act as a water
repellent barrier and shield the underlying
algae, from contact with the chemically-treated
water. In addition to shock treatment and
application of a polymer algaecide, it is
recommended that the pH be dropped to 7.2, the
circulation be directed towards the affected
areas and a "quat" algaecide be added. The
addition of the "quat" algaecide will not kill
black algae, but it can act as a wetting agent
that will help the chemicals penetrate through
the polymucosaccharide barrier. This regimen
should be used with all types of algae that
appear to be resistant to normal treatment,
regardless of the color. Not all black stains
are caused by black algae: heavy metal
discoloration and plaster finish problems are
other possibilities. In addition to proper
sanitation, good circulation is a must to help
prevent algae growth in areas with stagnant
water or dead zones. If problems arise,
refer to the Pool Problems
Page, as a source of problem-solving information, broken
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► Blackish Spots?
My inground pool has a marcite finish
that is a few years old and is in very good condition.
However, there are a few blackish colored spots on the
bottom, in the corners and near the ladder. I have tried
using a Siphoning Device on the end of a vacuum pole with
some acid solution, but nothing has happened. I can't rub
the spots off. Can this still be algae? Thanks.
Edward D, Bellingham, WA, 6/12/2011
The fact that the acid solution had no effect increases the
likelihood that it is algae. Black algae, in particular, can
be difficult. Fortunately you only have some spots and that
can make treatment easier. Your Marcite finish allows for
more direct
treatment. You have several options. Brush the
surface to help expose the algae. Place a 3" trichlor tablet
on top of a spot and allow to remain in place for at least a
few hours. The tablets can affect some masonry finishes, so
either test it on an inconspicuous spot or verify treatment
suitability with the finish contractor. If improvement is
seen, repeat elsewhere, as necessary. Another option is the
use of a Granular Trichlor to sprinkle onto the spots. Shut
off the filter first, so that the granules sink straight
down. Use a brush to do the positioning. Another method is
to attach a 3" trichlor tablet to a gadget (available in
pool stores) on the end of a vacuum pole. This can be used
to rub the trichlor onto the spots. NONE OF THESE OPTIONS
ARE SUITABLE FOR OTHER THAN MASONRY FINISH POOLS - DO NOT
PERFORM ON VINYL LINED POOLS. In order to help keep
the algae from returning, you should consider the use of a
Polymer Algaecide. This product is effective against many
resistant types of algae, doesn't foam and is non-metallic.
To better assure proper overall pool water chemistry, visit
a pool store that has a very reliable, professional lab such
as a WaterLink SPIN
Lab or
Pinpoint system, rather than a less accurate test kit or
strip reader. To find a dealer near
you, go to:
LaMotte Professional
Testing Center Locator I
hope that these suggestions will prove helpful.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster, 6/13/2011
► Black
Swimming Pool Algae?
I have an 18,000 gallon vinyl inground
pool and have a growing problem with a black deposit in the
deep end of the pool. You can feel it on the surface - it is
almost like tar. It started off as a spot and is growing. Is
it black algae? What should I do? Your help will be
appreciated. Thanks.
Brad R. Cherry Hill, NJ, 7/23/2006
I suspect that you have black algae. Black algae is a
resistant type and it will take a regimen of steps to remove
the problem. I hope that your pool has a main drain. If not,
drop a vacuum head and hose into the deep end and attach to
a skimmer intake. Good circulation, in the effected areas is
important. Use a brush on the deposits to help loosen and
expose the algae. Add a quick acting shock treatment at the
rate of 2 pounds per 5000 gallons, until a Free Chlorine
Test reading of 5-10 PPM is achieved. Add an initial dose of
a "Quat" Algaecide: this will not kill the algae, but will
act as a wetting agent to help the chemicals penetrate the
outer surface of the algae. Add an initial dose of a Polymer
Algaecide: this product is effective in controlling
resistant types of algae. Make sure that you are using a
Free Chlorine tester. Test the pH of the water and lower to
7.0, in order to increase the effectiveness of the chlorine.
Keep brushing the deposits, retesting the Free Chlorine and
keeping the level at 5-10 PPM. Add more shock at the rate of
1 pound per 5,000 gallons, as needed, to keep the Free
Chlorine at 5-10 PPM. The filter should operate
continuously, to maintain good water circulation in the deep
end. Poor circulation will only add to the problem. If you
would like to improve the circulation dramatically, adding
"The Circulator" to each return will do just that. It is
simple to install. This combination of steps is necessary,
in order to control this problem. After the problem is
eliminated, resume normal chlorination and filtration.
Restore the pH to the optimum range. To help avoid a
recurrence, add a weekly dose of the Polymer Algaecide, as
directed on the label. I hope that these instructions will
prove effective. Enjoy the summer. At least what is left of
it.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster, 7/23/2006
► Maybe Yes -
Maybe No?
Hello Alan, I am servicing a pool that
is about 20 years old, with the original plaster. I am
noticing black algae spots and have been led to believe that
this happens with plaster this old. I am under the
impression that the only thing to do is drain, acid wash and
replaster the pool. Is this true about old plaster actually
encouraging black algae growth? I don't want the customer to
blame me for this situation. What advice should I give him?
Thanks for your help.
Tony B., 1/26/2010
The black spots could be black algae or it could be a
problem with the pool finish. A 20-year old plaster finish
would be quite susceptible to many staining problems. A
rough, badly etched surface can have nooks and crannies that
can facilitate algae growth. With the information provided,
I can't tell which is more likely. Try this. Place a 3"
chlorine tablet on a spot and leave in place overnight. If
the stain is removed, it is black algae in all probability.
If the stain is not removed, it is either a metals problem
or a pool finish problem that will probably require a
refinishing. Try this. Place 1/2 pound of pH reducer powder
in a white sock and drop onto a stain. Leave in place for 15
minutes. If the stain is removed, the problem is definitely
metals: iron, copper, manganese, etc. If not, try placing a
few vitamin C tablets on a stain, with the filter off. Leave
in place until dissolved. If this does not work, that leaves
a pool finish problem are the most likely cause.
Realistically, I would not invest a lot of time and money on
this problem, given the fact that the pool surface is 20
years old and well past its expected life. That is unless
the chlorine tablet, acid or vitamin C worked. If not, you
are certainly not at fault, as it is not an unusual to have
such problems as the plaster wears thin. Present this to the
customer, as this is the right time to give the pool a fresh
new look. More information on treating black algae or metal
stains is available on other pages of this website. I hope
that I have been helpful.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster, 1/26/2010
► Black
Something?
Hi, My name is David and I live in
Winter Park Florida. I don't have a pool. But, I do have a
large concrete patio, that I built on the back of my house,
with a large grapefruit tree next to it. I have had a
problem with a black sooty substance on the leaves of the
grapefruit tree. Now I have a problem with a black substance
on the patio. It starts where the patio connects to the
concrete blocks of the house and moves out over the patio
towards the yard. I have removed it with a pressure cleaner
but each year it comes back. My question is, is it black
algae and how do I keep it from coming back? Thank you for
your time.
David, Winter Park, FL 2/24/2006
There's nothing in your letter that leaves me to suspect
that it anything other than the common mildew condition,
that is so widespread in Florida. The heat and humidity will
do it every time, especially in shaded areas that remain
wet. Power washing does work. Liquid chlorine can be used on
the area and will generally do a better cleaning job. I
don't have any secret tricks to share. Sorry that I couldn't
be more helpful.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster, 2/23/2006
► Black
(Algae) Pool?
Alan, please help. We have a big
24,000 gallon above ground pool. We tried to take the water
out (thank God we couldn't) and clean it. Well it is now
only about 6 inches below the skimmer, and we need to get it
ready for swimming and it has turned BLACK. What and how
much algaecide should we use to get it to a point were we
can start chlorinating it again. We had the chlorine levels
really low and the pump off for the winter. Please help us.
Donna and Michael, Deltona, FL, 2/23/2004
In your e-mail subject line, you used the phrase "black
algae." However, from the content of your letter, it is
apparent that this may not be the case. Clearly, you need to
start by getting the Free Chlorine elevated, as soon as
possible. Add 5 pounds
of a quick-dissolving shock or 5
gallons of liquid chlorine. Keep the filter running and make
sure that the pH is 7.2-7.6. Retest the Free Chlorine, after
a few hours and repeat this dosage, if the Free Chlorine
level is below 1-3 PPM. Keep adding chlorine until the Free
Chlorine is at least 1-3 PPM, after an overnight period, or
the water is noticeably improved. The water may remain
cloudy, as the algae is decomposed. Adding a
Nano-Stick
Clarifier can help oxidize and eliminate the fine debris,
that detracts from optimum water quality and clarity. If at
this point, you see black deposits on the walls, it is
possible that you do have black algae. Treating black algae
will require a regimen as follows: boost the Free Chlorine
to 10 PPM, add an initial dose of a "quat" algaecide to act
as a wetting agent, add an initial of a polymer algaecide,
lower the pH to 7.2, redirect the water flow to send more
water towards the affected areas and use a brush to scrub
the deposits. Once the problem is solved, resume normal
chlorination and add a weekly dose of the polymer algaecide.
I hope that this information proves helpful.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster, 2/23/2004
► Not Quite
Black Algae?
My pool developed a black
discoloration about 3 feet in diameter on the bottom. It is
a 24' round above ground pool. It happened one day after I
added a couple of bags of shock. I have been treating it
with a black algaecide and shock for more than a week and
there is no improvement. I did some browsing through the
archives and I thought that I would give the acid powder in
a sock a try. I shut the filter off and dropped the sock
into the middle of the discoloration. Within minutes, I
could see a difference. As the acid was dissolving, it was
spreading along the bottom and the stain was disappearing.
Soon it was all gone. Can you explain what happened? Thank
you!
Stan, Staten Island, NY, 7/23/2009
The one thing that we do know is that it was not black
algae. Not all dark discolorations are black algae. Algae is
less likely to
appear after a shock treatment. It seems
certain that the problem was caused by the presence of some
heavy metals: iron, manganese, copper, etc. When you added
the shock, the chlorine content rose and the pH changed and
that set some precipitation into motion. The fact that the
acid so easily removed the discoloration, confirms that the
problem was mineral and not algae. You have two more things
to do, in case you have not already done them. Add a dose of
a quality Mineral Treatment, such as phosphate-free,
Liquid
METALTRAP, to help complex the minerals that you just
dissolved. Bring in a water sample for heavy metal analysis.
This may help confirm the problem. Thereafter, use a
METALTRAP Filter to remove any heavy metals, prior to the
addition of any makeup water. Clearly, things are looking
better for you. Enjoy the summer and I'm glad the advice
worked so well.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster, 7/23/2009
► Black
Algae: Is It Or Isn't It?
We have an above ground 30' round pool
which is about 5 years old. The first 2 years, we had no
problems with clarity and no problems with water condition.
In the 3rd year, we noticed a dark stain on the bottom which
runs about 3-4 feet in length about 1' wide in the circular
shape of the pool. We've been told repeatedly that we are
dealing with black algae. We have gone to just about every
pool shop in the area and have tried multitudes of treatment
options, including mustard & copper products, while adding
the scrubbing morning, noon, night routine. While some of
the treatments worked, they only worked temporarily…only to
wake up one morning and find the same spot re-appearing.
(Perhaps they should call this organism magic algae.) Not
only has it been an investment to make our pool clear and
stain-free, we have worked very hard to maintain its
condition. Since we live in New England, where the pool
season is only 3-4 months long, at best, we and our kids
enjoy our pool. As we have spent hundreds of dollars over
the years on chemicals that we were promised would solve the
problem, and have spent plenty of hours cleaning our pool
rather than swimming, we are contemplating replacing our
liner completely. Do you think this is a radical remedy or
do you have one last solution for us? Thanks for any advice
you may have to offer. Regards from New England
Bridgitte T., New England, 5/3/2009
My guess it that it is not "black algae." You apparently
have tried to treat this as algae, without success. The
stain is probably the result of minerals such as: copper,
iron and/or manganese. A water analysis should help to
confirm this. Let's try
this! Shut off the filter. Put 1/2
pound of pH reducer in a white sock and drop onto a stained
area. Leave in place for 5-10 minutes. Move around with a
vacuum pool, afterwards. If improvement is seen, it is
positive confirmation that the problem is mineral. Repeat
elsewhere as needed. Add 2-3 doses of a quality mineral
remover, such as phosphate-free, Liquid METALTRAP, in order
to complex the minerals and avoid a recurrence. If the areas
are too large for the sock treatment, try this! Use a stain
remover accessory: available at many pool stores. This
device will allow you to siphon a solution onto the stains.
Make a solution of 1/2 gallon of water, 1 quart of the
mineral treatment and 1 quart of muriatic acid. Use a
plastic pail, wear eye protection and rubber gloves and add
the acid last. after the stains are removed, make sure that
you add the 2-3 doses of mineral treatment before adjusting
the pH. I'm confident that this will work. If it doesn't,
please get back to me and we'll try plan "B." Refer to other
areas of the archives for additional information. Good luck
and enjoy the season.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster, 5/3/2009
► Black
Spots?
First of all the basics: 22,000 vinyl
line pool with skimmer and main drain, Chlorine treated Sand
filtration. The pool gets black mud looking spots. They can
easily be brushed away, but return. I usually use a copper
based algaecide. It has given some relief in the past but
seems ineffective now. We keep our pool open year round but
only swim in summer, we live in Atlanta. Have you got any
ideas? Sincerely.
Mike G., Atlanta, GA, 3/10/2004
My best guess is that it is not black algae: this type of
algae is very difficult to remove and will not simply brush
away. It is possible that copper can cause some black
stains, especially if the water is high in calcium hardness,
although this is unusual with the proper use of a chelated
copper algaecide. I suggest that you discontinue use of the
copper algaecide and start using another type, inasmuch as
you stated that it seems not be effective. My choice would a
polymer algaecide. It is more expensive, but worth the
price. Try this on the spots. Put 1/2 pound of pH reducer in
an old white sock, drop onto a spot. Leave in place for a
few minutes and move around with a vacuum pole. If
improvement is seen, this will confirm that it is a mineral
problem and not algae. Repeat elsewhere as needed. To help
prevent a recurrence of the problem, add a double dose of a
quality mineral remover, such as phosphate-free,
Liquid
METALTRAP. I hope that I have been helpful.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster, 3/10/2004
► It Worked,
But What Is It?
After reading about black algae in the
topics section, we were convinced that was what we had in
our pool. I started the program that you called for and it
seems to be working. We have an inground with vinyl liner.
After 4 days some of the spots have went away completely,
while a large one is fading. I called the pool dealer that
installed the pool to get their ideas on how to treat black
algae and their answer was something I had never heard of
before. They said that if it was black algae that it was
under the liner and it (the liner) would have to be removed
and chlorine sprayed on the underside. What is your
knowledge of this procedure? Thanks for the information on
how to wipe out these awful black spots. Still shocking and
brushing.
Durwood W., Arkansas, 6/11/2004
The is an occasional problem with a mold or fungus growing
on the reverse side of the liner. It is not usually
described as being black: a gray shadow is the most common
description. In any event, it does not respond to treatment
of the water. What you have seems to be responding to the
black algae regimen and there is no reason to suspect that
it is anything else. Removing the liner, spraying the back
and trying to reinstall the liner could prove difficult to
futile. Give the chemicals a chance to complete the task.
Enjoy the season.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster, 6/11/2004
► Black Pool
Algae Or Not?
Large pool facility, i.e. water park,
has an accumulation of slippery blackish-green stuff on a
wooden stair bridge walkway. There is a large pool that runs
under the bridge of stairs. The facility operations manager
says the blackish-green stuff on the stairs is black
algae. This area is an open area and traveled over
frequently, meaning that it's kept sufficiently watered from
pedestrians walking over it. Is it possible for algae, any
type of algae to grow on stairs? Also, would the same
techniques to get rid of it be that of getting rid of it
from a pool? Thanks so much for your help!
Melanie C., 5/20/2004

Unless you're a microbiologist, it is difficult to put
labels on microorganisms. To me it sounds like mildew or
fungus. Could be it algae or something else? Probably. The
easiest way to eliminate the problem is with power washing
and/or spraying the area with liquid chlorine. It's not
permanent and it will come back. Inasmuch as people walk on
the area, I would not suggest applying algaecides to the
surface, so as to avoid creating a slippery surface. This is
very common problem in Florida and other damp, humid and
warm locations: on sidewalks, patios and roofing tiles.
A Water Broom is a very
convenient to water sweep your deck and patio areas. I
hope the advice helps.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster, 5/20/2004
► Out Of
Reach?
Your web site has been extremely
useful. I have an Continuous Swim Pool and initially used
the mineral purifier system with low level chlorine levels.
After a few months, I noted a sticky dark area on the vinyl
floor near one of the benches. where the return water goes
for the swim current. I am sure it is black algae and it
developed under one of the benches because of poor
circulation and low chlorine levels. The swim current is on
no more than 30 minutes or so a day and the area under the
bench is isolated from the normal pool circulation. There
is no way to scrub that area unless I partially drain the
pool and dismantle the whole swim current propulsion
assembly and benches. On the other hand, I have improved
the exposed area with treatment using a quat, polyquat, and
adding some copper. I am using bromine now with non-chlorine
and chlorine granular shock (putting some granules through a
crack between the bench and wall). I stopped the mineral
purifier. I am scrubbing the exposed area. Is it possible to
eradicate black algae without scrubbing behind the benches?
Can I expect to at least control it doing what I am doing?
Dismantling the system would be a major undertaking
especially if I could not eradicate the black algae
completely anyway or if it came right back. I would
appreciate your thoughts.
Sean H., Jacksonville, NC, 3/18/2007
Assuming that it is black algae, you seem to have followed
the regimen that I normally recommend. However, the use of
the copp
er algaecide was not something that I would have
suggested, under these circumstances. The mineral sanitizer
was already contributing copper to the water. The problem in
dealing with some types of algae is that they form a water
repellent film on their surface which can act as a chemical
barrier. As you have correctly concluded, the combination of
inaccessibility and poor circulation is not helping the
situation. You can dramatically improve circulation an reap
the benefits, by installing The Circulator, in each return
jet fitting. Now that you have added bromine, you can no
longer use that particular brand of mineral sanitizer, as it
will shorten the life of the cartridge. However, you can use
a Solar-Powered
Dual-Ion Mineralizer, with either chlorine or
bromine. Temporarily lowering the pH to 7.0 and boosting the
bromine level to 10 PPM and keeping it there for a few days
might help. Another viable option would be to use a power
washer to help dislodge the algae, allowing the chemicals to
better act in destroying the growth. You should be able to
use the power washer under water. Once you eliminate the
problem, I suggest that you consider adding an
ozonator, as
backup to the bromine. Good luck and I hope that I have been
of help. Let me know how it turns out!
Sincerely. Alan Schuster, 3/18/2007
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