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Scroll down to browse through some archived SWIMMING POOL questions and answers.  Please access the Pool Problems Page and other links, at the top of every page, for additional information.

Safety pool covers are an increasingly popular way to provide backyard security for children and animals, by covering the pool.  This can be done, without unsightly and clumsy rollers, at the push of a button or the turn of a key.  Pool safety covers can be built for a natural, uncluttered look and provide the additional benefits of reduced water loss through evaporation and big savings on pool heating costs.  Clicking on the underlined and highlighted "keywords" or "catch phrases," in the archived answers will give you access to additional information on that topic or product.  Please refer to the Glossary, if there are terms or phrases that require explanation.   For an alphabetized listing of the entire contents of the website, use the Table of Contents link, on top of every page.

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More information about Safety Pool Covers can be found on the Cover Pools, Inc. Preview Page in the "Pools & Equipment" Product Information Section.   Links are available to connect  you to their website.

Covering Up?

I'm looking for a pool cover to cover a swim / spa 8ft x 24 ft long. To keep out leaves. Can you help?

Barry W., 5/3/2007

There are lots of choices.  You can purchase a lightweight laminated pool cover and cut it to size.  You could have a cover made to order.  You could use a safety cover that will keep the dirt and the kids or dogs out of the pool.  There are automatic pool covers, as well.  It boils down to a matter of budget and needs.  I suggest that you pay a local pool professional a visit, in order to help your decision making process.  Good luck and I hope that I have been of assistance.

Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 5/3/2007

 

Pool Safety Concerns?

We have an inground pool and are concerned about our toddler son.  Are there safety devices that could put our mind at easy?  Thank you.

Jennifer S., 5/23/2009

There are several choices:  pool alarms, portable safety fences and enclosures.  From the point of view of safety, perhaps the best are pool safety covers.  These covers seal off the surface - you can actually stand on the cover - and can be operated manually or automatically.  As a bonus, they will reduce water loss through evaporation and keep the water warmer.  While it may not reduce the local requirements for a fence, it can be a real life saver.  Good luck with your decision.

Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 5/23/2009

 

Pool Safety Nets?

I just found your website and see that you give very good answers. So I thought I'd email you my question. We have a couple of neighborhood ducks that love our pool. At first we thought it was cute but then we found some droppings and lots of fuzz on the water surface.  Also, people said that duck droppings are not good because it produces some kind of organism that borrows into your skin. So now the visitors are not as cute any more. Do you know where we can get a big net so that they can't get in?  Or do you have any other ideas we can try?  Thanks much.

Angel, 6/27/2004

Ducks do two things.  Eat and ....  I had a boat so I know all about them.  Duck dropping, people and pools are not a good mixture.  There are safety nets that you can place over the pool to keep the ducks out.  It will also act as a pool safety barrier for small children.  Good luck and I hope it all works out.

Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 6/28/2004

 

Out Of Sight?

We are planning to redo our 16' x 36' inground pool next year and are definitely going to add an automatic pool safety cover.  The remodeling will include a new finish, tile work and coping.  Most covers, that I have seen, are on top of the coping.  Is there another way to do this?

Dennis B., Sanford, NC, 9/14/2004

Being that you are planning on replacing the coping this should not be a problem.  Federal Stone Industries makes a pre-cast stone coping that will allow you to attach the cover on the hidden underside.  Cover Pools has a cover that can be installed in that manner.  Push a button and the cover will retract to one end.  The track will not be seen.  At least you know it can be done.  I suggest that you work out all the details with the contractors, so there are no surprises.  I hope that this information will prove to be helpful.

Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 9/14/2004

 

Solar Cover Alternative?

Hi Alan.  I use a heat pump on my 15x30 built in pool. I use it year round in South Florida and have a solar cover. I find the cover awkward to use and was wondering what alternatives that you could recommend. My wife and I would appreciate your prompt response. Thank you.

Dick S., Florida, 9/18/2003

Without a doubt the easiest pool cover product to use is the automatic safety pool cover.  It can be operated automatically, by a remote control or a keyed switch.  It covers the pool and reduces heat loss, acts as a solar cover and provides safety.  The heating cost savings are considerable.  More information on this product can be found at www.coverpools.com   It can also serve as a winter cover, but I don't think you really care!!!  It can be part of a complete pool automation, that can include an automatic pool vacuum, a salt chlorine generator, pool security and more.  I hope that I have been helpful. 

Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 9/18/2003

 

Safety Cover Algae Cleaning?

I have been through chlorine purgatory trying to rid my pool of a constant low chlorine problem.  I have switched companies that test and the new company advised me how on how to treat my pool problems and they are suggesting that I have Mustard algae, which I would agree with after reading your advice column.  Can't keep the chlorine up regardless of what I do and every time I shock the pool it turns to white foam on the surface and the next day the water is clear but there is a brown silt on the bottom of the pool that looks like dirt or sand but when brushed floats away like a cloud.  When it is vacuumed it goes away but is back on the bottom the next day in smaller amounts.  I am treating it with a copper algaecide and I am wondering how to clean the bottom of my automatic cover to make sure it is not on the cover also.  Or is this step even necessary?  I am brushing the sides rigorously and vacuuming and washing filters almost daily while keeping up the Chlorine to 5+.  Am I doing it right and is this the way to rid the problem.  Thank you.

Jack M. 6/18/2008

You seem to be on the right track and adding a copper algaecide could help make the difference.  Cleaning the automatic cover might be helpful.  You can raise the water level and make sure the free chlorine level is elevated and let the chlorine reach the underside.  There is a product that can be used for this purpose, as well of lots of other uses, as well  The Water Broom will use pressurized water streams to clean the cover and wash the debris out.  Unfortunately, it will end up in the pool.  I would suggest having the free chlorine at 10 PPM, before this is done and be prepared to add more chlorine, if required.  This sort of thing, might need to be done yearly, when the pool is opened.  Poor circulation can make algae growth more likely.  You might consider adding THE CIRCULATOR.  The easy to install device will eliminate the dead spots that can promote algae growth.  I hope that this information proves helpful.

Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 6/18/2008

 

► Cleaning The Automatic Cover?

I read through many posts but I couldn't find anything on this issue.  I have a vinyl liner pool with a manually operated an in track safety pool cover.  Every time I open the pool cover, the pool has more dirt settled on the bottom of it.  I vacuum it and get it nice and clean, and then the next time I open it (usually the next day) it is dirty again!  The cover is supposed to help keep dirt and debris out of the pool, but I am wondering if the dirt that settles on top of the cover is being rolled onto the water wide of the cover when it is rolling up on its spool, and then dropping that dirt into the pool when I close the cover again.  Is this what is likely happening, and if so, what is the best solution to cleaning the top of my pool cover off?  Or is there likely something else I am missing entirely.  Thanks for you help!
 
Derek, Clovis, NM, 5/16/2009

I don't think you're missing anything and you see it for what it is.  Dust and dirt settles on the cover and eventually ends up in the pool.  If it were not covered, the same dirt would enter the pool in small amounts.  I suggest that you clean the cover, periodically, and deal with this dirt all at once, rather than daily.  A Water Broom will help wash down the cover and will be useful around the pool deck, walkways and more.  I hope that this information will prove helpful.

Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 5/16/2009

 

Heater Cost Savings?

1st, your site is very helpful and informative.  I have used it time after time for  questions pertaining to my pool.  Your answers have always been exact and have helped me solve my problems. My questions pertain to Pool Safety Covers:  How effective are they?  Are they cost effective?  I would like to use it all year round.  Are they easy to operate?  Do you have prices for various sizes?  Thanking you in advance.

Mike, N.Y., 9/28/2003

I assume that you are referring to an automatic pool safety cover.  This type of cover can be used year round, as a safety cover, a solar cover and as a winter cover.  There is a cost savings, associated with pool heating costs, that can be considerable.  The cover can be operated at the press of a button and can be part of pool automation.  For more information on safety pool covers go to www.coverpools.com  There is a dealer locator available that should help you obtain more information and pricing details.  Thanks for visiting the website and I hope that I have been helpful.

Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 9/28/2003

 

Savings, Costs & Benefits?

Your website is awesome.  Can a pool safety cover pay for itself in heater costs, over a period of time?   Can it be used with a solar cover?  Thanks

Austin, 1/11/2005

It is unlikely to completely pay for itself in heater costs, but it will make a considerable difference.  This type of cover is not generally used with a solar cover, as that would eliminate some of the convenience.  It, however, does act as a solar blanket to help retain heat, reduce evaporation and raise the water temperature.  One thing it does extremely well is to provide safety and piece of mind.  The closing of the cover helps protect children and animals from falling into an unattended pool.  How do you put a price on that?  For information on safety pool covers go to:  www.coverpools.com  I hope that I have been helpful.

Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 1/11/2005

 

Reducing Heater Costs?

I was browsing through your website for information on mustard algae and came across a reference to pool safety covers reducing heating costs.  I am involved in the management of our home owners association pool - Olympic size - and was wondering if this type of product can be used in our pool.  Any idea as to possible savings?  Costs?  Does it operate manually or can it be done automatically?  If the cover is a safety cover, is there any insurance savings?  Thank you for any assistance that you can offer.
 
Irving S., Delray Beach, Florida, 10/8/2003
 

Considerable cost savings can be had by reducing the overnight heat loss due to evaporation and radiational cooling.  This type of cover can be operated manually or automatically and it can locked in place for additional safety.  I have no information about potential insurance savings:  you need to discuss this with your insurance agent.  In order to determine costs, possible savings and practicality, I suggest that you visit www.coverpools.com  This website will be able to provide you with additional information and dealer locations.  I hope that I have been of help.  By the way, it seems to have been a bad year for mustard algae problems!  Good luck with the project.

Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 10/9/2003

 

Considering A Safety Cover?

I am installing a 16x40 inground fiberglass pool in New York.  I would like to know if an automatic safety cover is worth the investment and, if so, which brand is the best (Cover Pools, etc.)

Dale P., 10/31/2003

Cover Pools has the most experience and, from what I have seen or read, it sets the standard.  There are variations that are suitable for all types of pools, shapes, new construction or old.  As a bonus, it will act as a solar cover and even as a winter cover.  Good luck.

Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 10/31/2003

 

Wintering With A Pool Safety Cover?

Our pool is a 16' X 36' and we had it built with the intention of adding an automatic safety pool cover in the future.  My question is can the safety pool cover be used as winter cover?  Thanks for the help.

Dawn & Jim, Fayetteville, NC, 6/3/2003

In many areas a safety pool cover can be used as a winter cover.  However, the procedures for winterizing are different.  The water level must be dropped below the skimmer, the lines blown out, openings sealed off and ice compensators or Gizmos, added to the skimmers.  Afterwards, the water level is raised so that it will help support the cover, in case of major accumulations during the winter.  It is still possible to use a conventional winter cover on out, in order to completely seal off the pool for the winter months.  A lot depends upon where in the country you are and the type of winter conditions.  Your dealer or installer should be able to provide you with specific instructions for you area and for your specific needs.  I hope that I have been helpful.

Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 6/3/2003

 

Evaporation Loss?

How much water might a pool lose due to evaporation?   Can you tell if it is due to a evaporation or a leak?  Thank you.

Jim N., Bloomfield Hills, MI, 8/2/2004

Put a piece of tape or mark, at the water line, to use as the starting point.  Measure the water loss, daily.  How much water a pool will lose, due to evaporation, will depend upon several factors:  water temperature, air temperature, wind speed over the water surface, relative humidity, agitation, splash out, backwashing of the filter, exposure to the Sun, duration of sunlight, etc.  These variables will cause changes in the evaporation losses to vary throughout the season, even at the same location.  The use of a pool safety cover or solar blanket will reduce evaporation and water loss. So how much is reasonable?  A loss of 1/4" per day, more or less, depending upon the actual or seasonal conditions is a reasonable starting point.  Less in Bangor, Maine and more in Tucson, Arizona!!!  It is not unexpected to have to add a couple of inches of water per week, in the absence of rainfall.  A couple of inches per day is another matter.  A loss of inches per day could involve a leak.  There are products available that can help detect and locate leaks, with the use of a dye solution.  In addition, there are leak specialists.  Good luck and I hope that I have been helpful.

Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 8/2/2004

 

Cost Savings?

Hi there.  I have what I consider to be a lot of pool equipment:  an automatic pool vac, a salt chlorine generator and a pool heat pump.  We are thinking about getting an automatic pool cover.  Do you have any information as to the savings in heating costs and chemical costs.  We like the idea of the safety factor and the possibility of complete automation and the cost savings would be a bonus.  Thanks for any help that you can offer. 

J & A, 9/13/2003

P.S.  GGGGGGreat website -- keep it up.

You could except a considerable savings on the cost of heating the pool:  up to 70% based on materials that I have read.  However, the actual savings will depend upon your pool location, exposure and how you use the cover.  Evaporation will likewise be reduced and you will save on water.  The safety pool cover will reduce the effect of the Sun on the chlorine level and should make a noticeable savings.  The cover can, also, help keep out debris, which otherwise might reduce the chlorine level.  How do you put a price tag on safety and time saved?  With a salt chlorine generator, an automatic pool vacuum and a pool heater, you are really a candidate for pool automation.  I hope that I have been helpful.

Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 9/13/2003

 

► Corrosion And Salt Chlorine Generators?

I have been using salt chlorine generators for several years and love the water quality. I have installed many with the auto vinyl covers and have not seen any problems, but I hear people saying that this is not a good idea as the salt will corrode the aluminum track that the cover rides in. Any comments on this?

Michael T, Dix, Hills, NY, 1282008

Some dealers just don't like salt chlorine generators.  I had one of the first installed on LI, back in the late 70's.  I was co-founder of Hydrology Labs (Swim-Free) and we were the LI distributor for the first unit sold in the U.S..  A lot has been learned since then.  Manufacturers discovered that equipment with two dissimilar metals, in immediate contact, are subject to corrosion.  One day my underwater light floated up.  The chrome plated brass screws that held the stainless ring in place, dissolved. Simple solution, use stainless screws or plastic screws.  A SCG popularity increased, the manufacturers redesigned their products accordingly.  So long as there are no dissimilar metals, corrosion should not be an issue.  If a pool owner adds too much salt, that increases the risk.  One great thing about a SCG is that it makes for a more controllable level and avoids high chlorine concentrations and the corrosive effects of low pH.  Pools using regular chlorine are at greater risk, if they allow the free chlorine to get too high and the pH too low: common problems with trichlor.  The salt content or TDS of pools with SCG is not all that different from pools in the Sunbelt that use liquid chlorine and have hard water.  And no one is worrying about corrosion, in these pools.  Make sure that the grounding is right and that the pool safety cover tracks is hosed out periodically.  Good advice, no matter how the pool is sanitized.  I hope that this information is helpful.

Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 12/8/2008

 

Keeping Leaves Out?

Dear Alan, I have a 20' x 40' inground pool that is surrounded by trees.  I spend way too much time removing leaves from the pool instead of swimming in the pool.  I don't want to cut down my trees.  Do you know of a product that can operate as a summer leaf cover?  Thanks.

Joan F., 5/6/2004

You could cover the pool with an automatic pool cover.  It will keep things out of the water, provide safety, reduce evaporation and warm the water.  Have a happy swimming season.

Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 5/6/2004

 

Cover Repairing?

I have an automatic pull cover that has two tears along the track.  The group I bought the cover from won't repair it by stitching a patch (around the rope so it can move within the guide without catching on the tear), because they say the cover has become too stiff.   I don't think the vinyl is as degraded as the pool cover people describe and would like to wait to buy a replacement cover until next year, after the winter.  On a side note: do you think that the owner of that company would be pleased to learn that the tech refused to do a $150 repair and, as a result, lost the customer who would soon be purchasing a new cover and carriage system.  Anyway, any suggestions.

Christopher S., Indianapolis, IN, 7/3/2009

This topic doesn't register, as something that has been asked before.  So I asked someone at Cover Pools, a manufacturer of this type of product.

The need to repair the webbing that is on the sides of an automatic pool cover and slides in the tracks is a common repair for all brands of covers.  The common and proper fix is to sew in a patch. The sewing is done by hand with a sewing awl on the job site and an experienced sewer can sew 2-3 feet per hour.  Our position is that we have a duty to inform the consumer of all of the costs and consequences and then it is the consumers decision of how they want to proceed. We would never tell a customer that we would not sew in patch.  However, we might express the opinion that we think the cost of the repair is disproportionate, compared to the condition of the vinyl and, then, let the customer tell us how they want to proceed.  Since Indianapolis is one of the largest automatic cover markets in the country, Christopher should have no trouble finding other servicemen that are more than willing to sew his cover. If interested I would be happy to walk through the process of Christopher sewing it himself.  Thanks.

Rick Clark, General Manager, Cover-Pools Incorporated

I hope that this information will help you get the repair work done.

Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 7/6/2009

 

Keeping The Water Warm?

I heard that there is a product that you can add to the water that will help keep the temperature from dropping at night.  It that true.

Brenda, R., 6/16/2003

Strange, but true.  The product works by forming a mono-molecular layer on the pool surface and is used, at night, after the filter is turned off.  Does it work?  In theory, if you reduce evaporation, you will reduce heat loss.  I've never tested the practicality of the theory, myself.  A better and reasonably inexpensive method of warming the pool water is the use of a solar blanket.  These are plastic sheets (sized to completely cover the water) filled with air bubbles, that are used as a cover on the pool surface.   Solar blankets are not safety covers!  Put it on after the pool is finished for the day and take it off when you are about to resume swimming.  If left on during sunny periods, it will cause the pool temperature to rise significantly.  Reels are available to remove and store the solar blanket, until it is used again.  Safety pool covers are available that are either manual or automatic and can help reduce heating costs or help keep unheated pool warmer.  Enjoy the summer.

Sincerely.  Alan Schuster, 6/16/2003

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