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Microorganisms of all types can grow in a poorly treated spa. Sanitizing
is the only thing that keeps spa water clean, healthy, enjoyable and from
becoming old bath water. Microorganisms including algae, bacteria, slimes
and mold can present themselves in various ways: cloudy water, slimy
growths or slippery underwater surfaces. The warm temperature of the spa or hot
tub can accelerate the growth of microorganisms. Today, there are
many more choices of spa water sanitizers: chlorine, bromine, biguanide,
ozone ultraviolet, mineral purifiers and ionization. Using a combination of two - one as the primary and
another as a backup - produces consistently good results and sparkling clear spa
water. Proper spa water treatment has never been easier or more
convenient.
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Black Growth?
Alan, I have a hot tub and I
use a product that doesn't contain chlorine or bromine, instead of chemicals. I
am getting a black growth that neither the tub dealer nor the treatment
manufacturer can identify. I have treated, drained & cleaned the
tub twice, and the problem returns. I have not treated with a
chlorine type shock yet. On advice from the tub dealer, just the treatment's
brand of shock. Have you ever heard of a black type of growth? Do
you know of a lab where I can get it tested to identify it? Should I use a chlorine (or other chemical) based shock to completely get rid of
the growth (how much and how long)? Thanks.
Phil J., West Virginia, 4/22/2003
I am not sure
what this product is, but it doesn't seem to be working for you. I suspect
that it is some type of natural enzyme product. Does it have an EPA
Registration? If it doesn't, as I suspect, it is not recognized as a spa
water sanitizer. You didn't provide much information as to whether or not
the spa has an
ozonator or
mineral sanitizer? The product that you are
using may provide acceptable results to a point. Eventually, a
microorganism will start growing that is resistant to this product's
action. Yes, I would try using chlorine to destroy the growth. Add
enough chlorine to boost the
Free
Chlorine level to 5-10 PPM and keep it there until the growth is
completely gone. Afterwards, you can return to normal maintenance.
However, if this growth is truly resistant to the product you are using, the
problem will return with near certainty. I suggest that you use a more
conventional spa sanitizing system. Browse through the "Ask
Alan" archives for more information on other sanitizing choices. There is a possibility that the problem is not a microorganism. It the
chlorine fails to remove the problem, have the water tested for iron, copper,
manganese and other heavy metals. I hope that I have been helpful.
Good luck.
Sincerely.
Alan Schuster, 4/22/2003
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Possible Spa Water Mold Problem?
My husband and I have a 2004 model spa. Right
before we changed the water the last time (2 weeks ago) we noticed these little
wisps floating in the water. They range from 1mm to 5mm in size, feel slimy
when touched and are pinky-orange-brown in color. Also, they smell. They are
most noticeable after the pumps have run and then shut off. It almost looks
like someone dropped a piece of tissue paper in the water and it has dissolved
into these little bits. We have cleaned the spa and flushed the lines twice
(got lots of green algae out of the lines too), but this problem came roaring
right back after the spa was running only two days. This stuff dirtied up a
filter in less than 36 hours. Help! Sincerely.
Rachel A., 4/18/2005
What you are describing sounds
like mold and bacterial growth. Your
ozonator may not be operating properly
or for long enough periods of time. Ozone should be detectable by odor, upon
removal of the cover and can be tested for using a test kit. You need to verify
that the ozonator is working properly.
Ozone requires a backup sanitizer such as chlorine, bromine or a
mineral sanitizer. Are you using a backup sanitizer? If not, I suggest that you
consider using bromine.
An operating ozonator will allow you to maintain a lower than normal level, by
adding reduced amounts of bromine. Try and keep the level at 1-3 PPM. Make
sure that the ozonator is operating for at least 4, 2-hour periods spaced
throughout the day. To help jump-start things, add shock treatment to help
destroy any mold or bacteria and help establish a bromine level. I hope
this information will prove to be helpful.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster,
4/19/2005
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White Mold?
I have been told that my hot tub has white mold in
it. Is this a serious health problem to the tub users. Me and my family?
I was offered a chemical for ridding the pipes. It's pretty expensive and
somewhat drastic looking. Any recommendations? Thanks so much.
George, 6/13/2006
This type of mold problem is usually indicative of
the development of a resistant microorganism and/or inadequate sanitation. Some
more information would have been helpful. If you are using biguanide, you
should permanently switch to another sanitizer. If you are using chlorine, I
suggest that you switch to bromine. Bromine seems to be the most effective
treatment for this problem. You can add sodium bromide and non-chlorine shock
(the 2-part bromine system) and boost the bromine level to 5-10 PPM. Keep it
elevated until the problem is solved. After the mold is eliminated, you can
continue bromine additions with either the 2-part system or bromine tablets.
You could add a large dose of chlorine and really get the level up (20 PPM).
This will clean out the pipes and the filter. Afterwards, drain and clean the
spa. Refill and start off fresh. The addition of an
ozonator is
something that you might consider, as it will make maintenance easier and
produce higher quality water, with more consistent results. It will reduce the
chemical consumption. You might add a
mineral sanitizer, as well. The
combination of the two work well together. All you should need is a very low
level of bromine, as it will act as confirmation that proper conditions are
being maintained. I hope that I have been helpful. Enjoy the hot tub.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster, 6/13/2006
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Possibly A Mold Problem?
I believe I am suffering from a white
mold infestation. Here's the background. I've had my spa for 6 months, as of 3
months ago I noticed what looked like white flakes floating in the water. I can
best describe it as what it would look like, if you put paper in the water and
broke it down into fibers. I originally thought it was organic in nature and
raised the bromine level to kill it off. When it didn't happen, I drain it,
scrubbed it and refilled. It took 2-3 days, but the flakes returned. After some
research, I thought it might be a hardness problem. The local water is somewhat
high. Today, I'm back at thinking the problem is organic in nature. From several
sources, professional, friends and the web, I have been told that white mold is
probably the culprit. The mold is fairly resistant to bromine and chlorine.
Sunlight is an effective agent against it, but the mold, within the pipes, is
protected. Making the problem go away appears to be very labor intensive and
sort of hot or miss. My question is what can you tell me about this
problem/situation? I sincerely appreciate all feedback. As for specific: I use
bromine and there is a functioning ozonator. I drain and clean, in accordance,
with manufacturer specs. We don’t use it that much now (3-4 times a month), but
it has been used heavily in the past. It can go a month without use. After use,
I typically shock. The amount increases, if my kids use it or we have friends
over. I clean the filter every 3-4 weeks. The current filter is 8 months old. It
has never been dry. Even if it is not used, I watch the chemicals to make sure
they are in spec. Thanks. However, test strips showed total alkalinity to be
within specs or at least abnormally high. Today, I'm back to thinking the
problem is organic in nature.
Pete N., 5/1/2007
This mold problem, if that is what it is, is common with
biguanide and not bromine. The flakes could be calcium scale coming off the
heater, especially if the hardness is over 400 PPM. Have the water tested
and add a calcium scale treatment, if necessary. I suggest the
following: Add a
SPA FROG Mineral
Sanitizer
to help add another type of sanitizing. It uses silver ions and is the only
one that can be used with bromine. Make sure the
ozonator is working and
operates for several periods through the day. I prefer, 4 sessions of two
hours each, if possible. Maintain a bromine level of 1-3 PPM, after
boosting the level to 5-10 PPM, for 24 hours. Circulate periodically
throughout this time. Add a
MicroPure disposable spa
filter. It
can filter out mold and other microorganisms. This combination on
bromine and a Spa Frog should provide adequate sanitation, as it is approved
as a spa sanitizer by the EPA. The added presence of bromine
will/should allow you to use less bromine to maintain this level.
Please let me know how this works.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster, 5/1/2007
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Probably Algae, Bacteria And
More?
We were gone for the entire summer and
the spa was left with only a bromine floater. It now looks like yuck! What
do you suggest? Thanks for the help.
Ken G., Fayetteville, NC,
9/23/2004
I suggest that you start draining
the water and do some rinsing with a garden hose. Clean out the filter and replace.
Refill with fresh water and add a double or triple dose of a quick dissolving chlorine or
non-chlorine shock. Make sure that the pH is 7.2-7.6. Keep the
Free
Chlorine level high and the filter
operating. Retest frequently and add more shock, as required. Eventually, the
chlorine will destroy all of the "yuck" that developed on the walls, in the
plumbing, in the filter and in the nooks and crannies. When things clear up, empty
the spa and rinse off everything in sight. Now, you are ready to start from
scratch. For
free chlorine testing, I suggest using
LaMotte Insta-Test strips, as
they provide the right kind of information. Go to:
www.lamotte.com To
better assure proper overall spa water chemistry, visit a pool/spa store that
has a very reliable, professional lab such as a WaterLink or Pinpoint system,
rather than a less accurate test kit or strip reader.
To locate a dealer near you, go
to:
www.lamotte.com/pages/pool/expdeal/index.html
I hope that I have been helpful. Good luck.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster,
9/23/2004
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White Water Spa Mold?
Dear Alan,
I've had a terrible time getting rid of white water mold! I've super shocked
the spa (had it orange for a week in terms of the chlorine and ran it several
hours a day), drained it twice, switched over to using Bromine so the sanitizer
doesn't break down like Chlorine after reading your website a few weeks ago,
soaked the filters in chlorine water on two occasions, etc. Done everything I
can think of to get rid of this problem- it's still coming back in the spa?
Is there no product available for spas that specifically attacks and kills white
water mold? Will the bromine kill it off eventually? What
can you tell me about a recurring white water mold problem? I'm at wits
end with this white water mold!
Jim R., 3/2/2004
Bromine seems to be the most
effective, but not for the reason that you alluded to in your letter. It
is not a case of not breaking down. Rather, bromine just seems to more
effective under certain circumstances. You may have switched to bromine,
but if that means you are using bromine tablets, the level is not likely to be
as high as you think. The orange color indicates that you are using OTO and that
does not measure the important germicidal forms of chlorine. You will get
better information by using a product such as the
LaMotte Insta-Test Strips.
Bromine
tablets are slow dissolving and contain chlorine, which needs to be converted,
by the presence of bromide ions. Your spa, being freshly refilled, does
not have a suitable level of bromide ions. I suggest that you add an
initial dose of sodium bromide - it is a spa product that is part of the
bromine 2-part system. Many spa dealers carry the product. Adding
the sodium bromide, will create a bromide bank and all of the bromine/chlorine
sanitizers or shock will be in the form of bromine. It s possible that the
pipes have become coated with the mold and are a continuing problem. I
suggest that you boost the Bromine level to 10 PPM and lower the pH to 7.2.
Keep the water circulating and add more chlorine or non-chlorine shock to boost
the bromine level, as necessary. This should do the trick. Once the
problem is solved, resume normal operation. You might consider adding an
ozone generator. It will make maintaining proper
sanitation easier and reduce chemical consumption. Good luck and let me know how
it turns out.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster,
3/2/2004
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Noah's Ark?
We moved in January to a new house. We had to put our
hot tub in the garage until summer, when we could finish the yard and move it
back outside. To our surprise when we opened the lid we found our tub covered
in mold and a terrible smell. Even the underside of the cover had tiny worms
that looked like maggots on it. What can we do to clean this without hurting
the finish and the lines. I can only imagine what is growing where we can't see
it! Please help we want to be able to use our hot tub again but right the very
thought disgusts me.
Laurie M., 8/11/2005
Ugh! It will clean up!
Fill the hot tub up and get the filter running. Add a gallon or liquid
chlorine. Keep the filter running and use a non-abrasive brush on the
walls. Test the water for free chlorine after a few hours. If the
level is not above 5 PPM, add more liquid chlorine or sodium dichlor granular
chlorine. Once the water has improved and there has been a steady free
chlorine level for a few hours, drain the spa and clean the walls. Remove
the filter cartridge, hose it off and soak it in a plastic bucket with water and
a few ounces of chlorine. Refill the spa and start by adjusting the water
chemistry and sanitizer level. Hose off the cover, scrub with a solution
of chlorine (a few ounces of liquid chlorine to a gallon) and water.
Be
assured that the ability to achieve clear water that contains 1-3 PPM of free
chlorine or other appropriate sanitizer will make the unit safe to use. To
help maintain ideal conditions, with fewer chemicals, you might give some
thought to
adding an
ozone generator. It
will provide better quality, using less time and effort. I hope that this
information proves helpful Enjoy the hot water experience.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster,
8/11/2005
► Algae, Foam & Cleaning Filter
Cartridge?
I have been very, very bad. And have let my anxiety about
pool care get me into a situation. I have a fiberglass swim spa and have not
been monitoring the chlorine levels, nor circulating enough, thus the green
tinted water. I also was afraid to change my cartridge filter. So,
this is where I am
now. I changed the filthy, dog-hair, algae, ridden cartridge filter,
shocked the pool with chlorine, vacuumed the pool and brushed the pool. The
water is blue again now. I still have foam, which is probably the algae being
killed by the chlorine? and stained steps which brushing with all my might won't
remove. Question #1: Will using muriatic acid on the old cartridge filter
clean it enough to use again, or should I buy another new filter? Question
#2: How do I get the stains off the steps near the return when they are under
water? My telescope bristle brush is not doing it! Question #3: Is the
foam I mentioned above, a natural algae killing result? My other levels in the
pool are OK except for low pH at this time. I'm not sure if I should add
pH rise at this time or not? I am learning the hard way! Please
help!
Pat T., 4/8/2007
The foam could be the remains of the algae or from soaps
formed by body oils. Try adding an enzyme treatment to help decompose these
soaps.
AquaPill
offers the perfect enzyme product, t o help with the decomposition. More
information is available at
www.smartpool.com
Depending on water chemistry and circumstances, you might be better of cleaning
in a soluble of diluted liquid chlorine. Cartridges don't last forever. You
might get a new one and alternate for cleaning purposes. If you want to make
cleaning easier
The Blaster
will do just that. Go to:
www.neoterics.com
or
www.askalanaquestion.com/the_blaster.htm
The stains
are probably due to iron, copper and other trace minerals and are rarely removed
by simply adding a metal treatment. Try this. Add 1/4 pound of pH reducer
powder to a white sock, shut off the filter and drop onto the top step. Allow
the material to "slink" down the steps. If the stain is still there it may
be necessary to repeat the procedure using either oxalic or ascorbic acid. Try
this first. Place a few vitamin C (ascorbic acid) tablets on a stain, shut off
the filter and leave in place for 15 minutes. If this worked it is likely that
treating with oxalic or ascorbic acid will work. Some pool dealers carry these
products. Have the spa and well water tested for iron and copper. ADD A DOSE
OF A QUALITY METAL TREATMENT FOR EVERY 0.5 PPM OF IRON OR COPPER. At the very
least add two doses. I hope that this information proves helpful and good luck.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster, 4/9/2007
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Do I Need An Algaecide?
Our pool is maintained with chemicals,
including algaecide. The spa is completely separate. It is outdoors, but
covered. Should I use an algaecide in the spa.
R. G.,
Evansville, IL, 5/26/2004
Spas that are covered are not
usually treated with an algaecide. Without sunlight, algae is usually not a problem
and the normal spa sanitizer should effectively prevent any growth. Enjoy the
summer.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster, 5/27/2004
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White Floaters?
Hello, I have small white things floating around my
spa. They look like rubber or silicone pieces and are white. What are they
and how do I get rid of them? Thanks
Jeff R., 9/29/2004
It could be a mold problem. Such
problems can occur, if biguanide is used a the sanitizer. Sometimes chlorine
resistant microorganisms develop and that could be what you are describing.
If you are using chlorine, I suggest that you switch to bromine, as it seems
to be more effective in dealing with this problem. If the spa has not been
emptied in several months, I suggest that you shock the spa heavily and
recirculate for a few hours before draining and cleaning. Refill, shock the
spa and start on bromine.
Adding an ozonator would be another good idea, as it will make maintaining the
bromine level easier and allow it to acts as a backup sanitizer.
There is no guarantee that the problem is mold, but
that is what is sounds like. If you are using biguanide as a spa sanitizer, I
suggest that you convert to bromine on a permanent basis, as it is almost a
certainty that the problem will return again and again. I hope that I have
been helpful.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster,
9/29/2004
► Worms Or Insect Larva?
I noticed in my hot tub tiny worms about 5 mm
long, brown with a reddish head and tail. They were swimming/floating around
these brown "nests" kinda like dissolved tissue paper. Do you know what these
are? And what I can do to get rid of them? Thanks a lot.
Stephanie, 6/15/2007
I believe that this is an insect larva. In any event, I suggest that you
add a lethal dose of chlorine, a pound of granular or a gallon of liquid.
Recirculate for an hour or so, drain, clean and refill. If you are
using biguanide as the sanitizer and I am guessing at this because of the
tissue-like description, you should make a permanent switch to another
sanitizer, at this time. The tissue-like material could be a
biguanide-resistant water mold. If getting away from chlorine was the
objective, you should look the following:
Mineral Sanitizers,
UV
Sanitizers
ionization-oxidation units
and
Ozonators. I hope that this information is helpful, in solving
this problem.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster, 6/15/2007
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Slippery Feeling?
Occasionally, I find that spots on the spa seating area
have a slippery feel. Is this a scale deposit, an ingredient in the
chemicals (I use bromine) or something else? Regards from Rhode Island.
Rhode Islander, 2/3/2004
Something else! Evidently,
there are times when your bromine level is too low or has been depleted by the
bathers. This allows for the development of microorganisms,
creating a slippery, slimy bacterial film (biofilm) on the underwater surfaces,
especially in the corners and areas with poor circulation.
A scale deposit would have a sandy feel and would probably be associated with
cloudy spa water. The only slippery feeling, that might be chemical
related, would be due to extremely high pH conditions. This biofilm is the
result of inadequate sanitation, for some period of time. You should
test
the water for bromine more frequently and, if the level tests too
low, add some non-chlorine shock. The addition of the non-chlorine shock
will boost the bromine level very quickly, as opposed to the slow-dissolving
bromine tablets. Try and keep the bromine level at 3-5 PPM and try and
avoid allowing the bromine level to bottom out. The addition of an
alternative spa water sanitizer system, such as an
ozonator,
ionization-oxidation unit
or a
ultraviolet
(UV) sanitizer, will reduce the amount of bromine required and will help assure
a more uniform sanitizer level. I hope that the information will prove
helpful.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster,
2/3/2004
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Floating White Stuff?
I have a one year old hot tub in which I use Bromine
tablets in the filter basket. I have an ozone system and I am very religious
about checking the levels. However, when I turn on the jets the tub gets
filled with a floating white stuff. I have three questions I was hoping you
could answer.
1. What is it, and how to I get rid of it?
2. What will keep it from happening again?
3. What is the best level for bromine with a ozone system?
Hoping you can help. Thanks.
Jim M., 2/23/2005
In the subject line of your letter you referred to
"biofilm." Biofilm would be microorganisms growing on the underwater
surfaces, as a result of inadequate sanitation. Not what one would expect
in a spa equipped with an
ozonator and using bromine.
More likely the problem is scale formation in the heater. Turning on the
jets can cause the white scale deposits to flake off. Have the water
tested for calcium hardness and total alkalinity.
If the calcium level is over 400 PPM, scaling would be very likely. You
can try adding a sequestering agent for calcium and lowering the pH towards 7.2
and the TA to about 100 PPM.
The Magnetizer
is an easy to install device that helps deal with scale problems and might be
worth looking into. If the ozonator is working properly and is in
operation for enough of a period, maintaining a 1-3 PPM level of bromine should
be adequate. The ozonator will allow you to maintain this level with fewer
chemicals. I am not a big fan of adding bromine tablets to the skimmer, as
the tablets are acidic and that could cause heater corrosion. Better to
use a floating dispenser and keep the pH at 7.2-7.8. I hope that the
information proves helpful.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster,
2/23/2005
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Mold In A Spa?
I have been told that my spa has a
water mold in it. I have been using biguanide with good results, until
recently. How should I handle the problem?
Sam A., Columbia, MD,
2/2/2004
Water mold is caused by a
microorganism that has, unfortunately, become resistant to the biguanide. In order
to treat the problem, I suggest that you drain the spa and refill with fresh water.
Add some quick-dissolving chlorine or non-chlorine shock and make sure that at least a 1-3
PPM level of
Free
Chlorine persists
overnight. Add more shock, as necessary. This will destroy the water mold on
the surfaces and in the lines. Resuming maintenance on biguanide will require that
you once again, drain the spa, refill and start from scratch or add sufficient
chlorine neutralizer to drop the chlorine level to zero.
Once a
biguanide-resistant microorganism has developed there is no guarantee that it will not
return, even after successful treatment. For this reason, I suggest that an
alternative sanitizer be considered: chlorine, bromine,
ozone generators,
ultraviolet
sanitizing,
mineral sanitizers,
ionization-oxidation units,
ionizers or a
combination. Otherwise, you just might get the problem back, in spite of your best
efforts. I hope that I have been helpful. Good luck.
Sincerely. Alan Schuster,
2/2/2004

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